Tag: anti-harmony

justsaya:

ronandhappiness:

pleurocoelus:

J K Rowling: Ron and Hermione got married and had two children, Rose and Hugo.

David Yates: Steve, she’s sinking our ship.

Steve Kloves: Don’t worry, I got this.

Steve Kloves: *writes creepy nude Harry-Hermione make out scene in Deathly Hallows part 1*

Ugh don’t remind me!

wait what! i mean i stopped watching the movie after that bullcrap of HBP…for making out they mean…snog/kiss/that stuff?! between almost-siblings? 

@justsaya It was during the Horcrux locket scene. Technically, it doesn’t count; but it was better-shot and more clearly-presented than the Romione kiss scene in DH part 2. 

Also, for some reason, in the film version the locket forms of Harry and Hermione were virtually naked. Apparently, Dan and Emma had to wear weird silver body paint for it, and then it was CGed to make them look un-clothed. Apparently, Rupert Grint got banned from the set by Emma because he was laughing so much for behind the cameras. 

ronandhappiness:

pleurocoelus:

“Once or twice Harry considered asking for Hermione’s help, but he did not think he could stand seeing the smug look on her face; he thought he caught it sometimes when Hermione spotted him staring at Ginny, or laughing at her jokes. And to complicate matters, he had the nagging worry that if he didn’t do it, somebody else was sure to ask Ginny out soon…”  

Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince.

Hermione’s smug looks at Harry prove that she completely shipped Harry and Ginny and give the lie to the fanon idea that she somehow desired Harry romantically.

“Harry looked over the top of Ginny’s head to see Dean Thomas holding a shattered glass in his hand, and Romilda Vane looking as though she might throw something. Hermione was beaming, but Harry’s eyes sought Ron.”

Hermione was beaming. She completely ships Harry and Ginny.

Not to mention, she’d always encourage Harry to talk to Cho. If Hermione had feelings for Harry, she’d never encourage him to pursue his crushes.

Her reaction when Ron got attention from girls though…

Hermione when Harry got attention from other girls: 

Hermione when Ron got attention from other girls: 

Please don’t @ me, Harmione shippers; I mean no harm….

headcanonsandmore:

headcanonsandmore:

Let’s be honest, Harry’s more likely to kiss Ron than he is to kiss Hermione. 

@amyk712 This wasn’t aimed at me, but I sure as heck am gonna comment! This post was intended as a joke, and was tagged with ‘anti-harmony’ and ‘no offence to those who ship it but it’s not my thing’. I never intended to insult anyone who ships Harry x Hermione, as I have no interest in engaging in shipping wars. My apologies if you feel offended by this post. 

At no point did I ever try to imply that people who prefer the Harry x Hermione ship are somehow ‘cringy’, and I am deeply sorry if that’s how this post came across. That was never my intention. 

Like you say, let people ship who they ship. If you personally feel Harry and Hermione have more potential as a relationship than Ron and Hermione, that’s fine. But I personally do not, as I’ve always seen Harry and Hermione’s relationship as that of brother-and-sister. That was all this post was; a personal opinion given in a humour way. 

Funnily enough, I have read the Wonderland interview. I really hate to be ‘that guy’ but that interview has been taken almost entirely out of context; Emma Watson has (even from the very early days of the series) been a big fan of Ron x Hermione, and even pointed out in the Wonderland interview that she found it strange to be acting out non-quite-platonic scenes between Harry and Hermione:

“Watson: (talking about the Harry and Hermione dance scene in DH Part 1) This is just so interesting because when I was doing the scene, I said to David [Heyman]: “This isn’t in the book, she didn’t write this.” I’m not sure I am comfortable insinuating something however subtle it is!”

This post was not intended to offend anyone, and I apologise if it did. I never expected this post to venture outside of the Romione side of tumblr, and I apologise again if my post has offended anyone. 

@amyk712 No problem; I always try and be thoughtful in my responses to people, no matter how different their opinions are to mine. 🙂 Fair enough; I personally quite like the way Ron and Hermione’s personalities mesh together. It’s the ‘opposites attract’ thing, I suppose. Ron is easy-going where Hermione is intense. Hermione is logical where Ron is more emotion-based. I think they balance each-other out quite well. I always thought Harry and Hermione worked best as friends (I personally find their personalities a little too similar to work romantically), but I don’t have anything against people who do ship them as a couple. 

Fair point. I think it’s also important to remember that they also talked about whether Hermione could make Ron happy, which often gets overlooked. I’ve personally never seen Ron and Hermione’s relationship as ‘combative’; if they didn’t get along, they’d wouldn’t have been friends for seven years before they became a couple. There’s a really great post by @owlpostagain about the way Ron and Hermione argue (which you can find here), which I feel explains their dynamic pretty well. I think that, while on paper, it might seem that Ron and Hermione are incompatible, the reality is quite different. Many adult couples have relationships that are quite similar, and I can think of plenty of IRL couples I know that are happily together, despite how much their personalities should not work together (hypothetically speaking). I suppose it depends on what you look for in pairings. 

Thanks again for commenting; I enjoy discussing these subjects with people in a calm and rational manner, since I don’t like getting involved in shipping wars. I apologise if this post upset you, and I hope that Romione and Harmione shippers can get along in the fandom despite their differences in opinion over these pairings. 

headcanonsandmore:

Let’s be honest, Harry’s more likely to kiss Ron than he is to kiss Hermione. 

@amyk712 This wasn’t aimed at me, but I sure as heck am gonna comment! This post was intended as a joke, and was tagged with ‘anti-harmony’ and ‘no offence to those who ship it but it’s not my thing’. I never intended to insult anyone who ships Harry x Hermione, as I have no interest in engaging in shipping wars. My apologies if you feel offended by this post. 

At no point did I ever try to imply that people who prefer the Harry x Hermione ship are somehow ‘cringy’, and I am deeply sorry if that’s how this post came across. That was never my intention. 

Like you say, let people ship who they ship. If you personally feel Harry and Hermione have more potential as a relationship than Ron and Hermione, that’s fine. But I personally do not, as I’ve always seen Harry and Hermione’s relationship as that of brother-and-sister. That was all this post was; a personal opinion given in a humour way. 

Funnily enough, I have read the Wonderland interview. I really hate to be ‘that guy’ but that interview has been taken almost entirely out of context; Emma Watson has (even from the very early days of the series) been a big fan of Ron x Hermione, and even pointed out in the Wonderland interview that she found it strange to be acting out non-quite-platonic scenes between Harry and Hermione:

“Watson: (talking about the Harry and Hermione dance scene in DH Part 1) This is just so interesting because when I was doing the scene, I said to David [Heyman]: “This isn’t in the book, she didn’t write this.” I’m not sure I am comfortable insinuating something however subtle it is!”

This post was not intended to offend anyone, and I apologise if it did. I never expected this post to venture outside of the Romione side of tumblr, and I apologise again if my post has offended anyone. 

weasleyismyking540:

Nothing basic at all about Ginny, but I dont like that she ended up with Harry.

I think I could get behind it a bit more if there was more obvious build-up; since Harry’s growing feelings for Ginny were very subtle before HBP (@hillnerd did an excellent post about hints throughout the books a while back). Ginny isn’t basic at all; I think the movie version was, but that was the screen-writers’ fault (Bonnie Wright deserved better, dang it!). 

Hang on a second; Harry had chemistry with Hermione? Luna; yes. Neville; possibly (they don’t really interact much, but they did share a dorm for six years). Draco Malfoy? Well, they certainly made each-other tense a lot, although I’m not sure if that counts (please don’t @ me, Drarry shippers, I mean do harm). But Hermione? Really? I guess they had chemistry as sort-of siblings, but even then, it’s a stretch. No offence to people who ship it; it’s just not my cup of tea. 

witchandhuntress:

headcanonsandmore:

You have successfully
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Below are some of the
changes that have been made:

  • The entire Weasley
    family is treated with respect
  • It is now made very
    clear that Harry and Hermione see each-other as siblings and nothing more
  • Ron Weasley now has
    his correct personality, mannerisms, and character developments in place (this
    was left out in the original format)
  • Hermione Granger has
    human flaws
  • Harry Potter is now in
    possession of the book-accurate level of sass
  • ‘Calmly’ means
    ‘calmly’ this time
  • Ginny Weasley now has
    a personality
  • Hermione’s bushy hair
    will now remain consistent throughout all of the films
  • Ron’s jokes are witty
    rather than irritating
  • Charlie Weasley exists
  • Tonks has her
    backstory and character arc restored to its original setting
  • Ron Weasley has his
    greatest moments restored to him (most of them were mistakenly given to
    Hermione in the previous format)
  • Lavender Brown’s
    ethnicity will not automatically change to ‘white Caucasian’ when she becomes
    integral to the plot
  • The Marauders have
    their original ages restored (there was a system error last time, which left them
    all looking middle-aged)
  • Harry and Hermione don’t
    start quasi-romantically dancing randomly to a Nick Cave song (we think this might have been a
    computer bug)
  • Steve Kloves will not
    be allowed anywhere near the production

‘It is now made very clear that Harry and Hermione see each-other as siblings and nothing more’

Hahaha haha, after Rowling said she likes Harry x Hermione better and that she wanted to kill Ron, yeah sure.

JK Rowling never actually said that she preferred Harry x Hermione. What she did say was that, while Ron and Hermione might need counselling (a sign that they both wanted their relationship to work), they would be alright after that. 

JK Rowling spent close to a decade writing Ron and Hermione slowly falling in love. We got that in print; no take-backsies. 

Ship what you want to ship. I don’t personally ship Harry x Hermione, but I don’t hate on those who do. This was simply a post pointing out my own personal issues with the HP film adaptation series. 

In the books, it was repeatedly made clear that Harry and Hermione were never interested in each other romantically. Harry even says in DH that ‘I love her like a sister and I reckon she feels the same way about me’.  

Therefore, I don’t agree with the films adding in not-just-platonic moments between Harry and Hermione; because in the books their relationship was never like that. Purely as an adaptation, it doesn’t reflect the characters relationship in the books. 

Also, why would Ron dying automatically mean that Harry and Hermione would become a couple?

Heck, I can imagine that if JK Rowling had killed off Ron, it would have utterly destroyed both Harry and Hermione. Considering that, during the time Ron wasn’t with them in DH, both Harry and Hermione were unable to function properly without him. They need Ron to function as a unit. Without him, the trio collapses like a flan in a cupboard. 

If you want to ship Harry x Hermione, then carry on. I’m not going to hate you for liking different ships to me. But please don’t assume that Ron was somehow an obstacle to Harry and Hermione becoming a couple.  

I tagged this post under ‘romione’ and ‘anti harmony’, so I’m not entirely sure how you came across it. I’ll just chalk that up to Tumblr’s tags being a mess. 

Don’t take it out on Harry. I agree he’s not the one for Hermione but he did try to comfort her, she was just too heartbroken

hillnerd:

ronandhappiness:

thetruthinesswillsetyoufree:

Take what out on Harry? lol I LOVE Harry. He is honestly my favorite character. I’m not bashing him. I am saying he is not the right guy for Hermione because he does not know how to deal with her when she is upset. If he doesn’t know how to make her feel better he’ll just stop making any effort. It’s like he said “there were loads of nights when we never even spoke to each other”. Which is exactly why he isn’t right for Hermione. Which is exactly why they aren’t equals. When Ron isn’t there, it is difficult for them to communicate. At one point when Harry was especially distressed he even said he “wanted nothing more than to get as far away from her as possible”. Like really. Wow.

Harry IS very emotionally receptive to Ginny’s feelings and needs. I don’t think he is cold and heartless. He and Hermione just do not connect in the way that a couple (in a healthy romantic relationship) should.

Thank you. I’ve never come across an Anti Harmione who has bashed Harry whilst criticising Harmione.

I don’t think it’s a Harry bash- it’s just stating facts- and the facts aren’t great for Harry here. 

Harry says it himself; ‘he liked Hermione a lot, but she just wasn’t the same as Ron’. Harry was canonically closer to Ron than he ever was to Hermione. That’s not a bash against Harry; that’s just the way their relationship was. 

slowburnotptrash:

Harry loves his boy

Once again proving that Hermione doesn’t understand Harry’s emotional needs as well as Ron does. Ron helps Harry unwind and de-stress himself in his own way. Hermione can put it down to ‘boys’ all she likes, but all it does is prove that she really doesn’t understand the situation. 

Sorry, I know this seems like I’m coming across as very anti-Hermione (which wasn’t my intention), but scenes like this make it very clear to me why Harry and Hermione never became a couple. They genuinely don’t understand what the other needs emotionally. Ron, on the other hand, is far better at it. Which is why I prefer Romione (and, to a lesser extent, Rarry/Harron) over Harmione. 

I agree so completely about the HP movies. I know movies are almost never as good as the books they’re based on anyway, but the HP ones are such an extreme example. What about Hermione and Ron’s characterizations in the movies do you hate? I always love Hermione, but I loved Ron so much more in the books than the movies and have trouble explaining why. And I totally understand how people who only saw the movies and never read the books don’t ship Romione or even see much affection there.

parksandfluff:

I mean, if you want bad adaptation, I don’t think there’s ever been a worse adaptation in history than Game of Thrones and the series A Song of Ice and Fire it’s supposed to be adapting. But yeah the HP movies do suck.

I hate how they obviously didn’t care for Ron’s characterization all throughout the series. Ron is a very good friend to Harry. The movies would like to make you believe that Hermione and Harry have this emotional closeness when they really don’t. He’s much closer to Ron − every time Ron and Harry are fighting, things are very awkward with just Harry and Hermione.

There’s even a scene in the movies where Hermione asks Harry like should we just live in this forest together forever? And in the book equivalent of that scene, she’s crying and Harry feels awkward and upset and they just don’t wanna talk to each other and it’s the worst. Pretty big difference, huh?

They have no respect for Ron. Ron is so much more than just a funny bloke. Ron is smart (he got almost the same results as Harry for his OWLs, just Harry had a better grade in DADA), and most of all, he’s knowledgeable. He’s a pureblood! He knows all about magic and the wizarding world and everything. In the movies, every time Ron was supposed to have a tidbit of info on the magical world, they gave the line to Hermione. And that’s just not how it is in the books. Hermione is very knowledgeable from her books, but Ron has practical knowledge of the reality of the lives of wizards. That’s one of his strengths. 

They gave all his best lines to Hermione. I mean, I understand wanting to portray a good female rolemodel for all the little girls watching Harry Potter, but really, it 1) makes Ron looks dumber, which he definitely isn’t 2) makes Hermione seem unrelatable. Movie Hermione simply doesn’t have any flaws. In the books, Hermione is great but she’s also a bit stuck in her ways, she’s bossy, she’s not good with handling emotions (which seriously the books make her this relationship guru or something, and bring closeness between her and Harry that way, and that’s just not what Hermione is). She has flaws. She’s a human being. Movie Hermione is a superhero. 

AND I HATE THAT THEY PUT ROMANTIC MOMENTS BETWEEN HARRY AND HERMIONE, THAT NEVER HAPPENED IN THE BOOKS, AT ALL, IT’S NOT THE STORY JK ROWLING WAS TELLING AND I HATE IT. 

fullyunabashedpeach:

queennesta:

When I first watched Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2, I was so angry. When Harry tells Ron and Hermione that he has to die, Hermione throws herself at him in a hug while telling him that she’d go with him so he is not alone. Ron just stands there watching. This really bothered me for the longest time. Ron was Harry’s first friend… His first true bit of family. During the TWT, he was the person Harry would miss most. How could someone so important just stare at him and not hug him or say goodbye? I was so angry.

It’s four years later, and I understand now. Ron understood Harry. He understood how hard it was for Harry to leave his whole life and give up everything to defeat Voldemort. But Harry did it because he knew he had to. And Ron knew how hard it was for him. So instead of throwing himself at his best friend and hugging him and crying and making it harder for him to leave (because Ron knew Harry hated making his friends upset), Ron just stood silently and watched as his best friend walked to his death – no matter how hard it was to keep from protesting.

Ron did it because he understood Harry in a much different way than Hermione. They both loved him, but Ron understood Harry needed Ron to give him strength.

And that’s so important in my opinion because it was just a sign of how strong their friendship was.

This is great!

I’ve always thought it was because the director of the films is a harmione shipper

@headcanonsandmore what do you think? 🙈

Whilst I think this is what David Yates  was going for when they shot the scene, I don’t think Steve Kloves wrote it that way. You’ll notice that, in all the Kloves-penned scripts, Hermione is virtually the only person who is repeatedly physically-affectionate to Harry. Heck, Ginny and Cho (who Harry canonically dated) are shown to be less consistently physically affectionate with him in the film series. 

David Yates (for all his faults) was pretty much the only Romione shipper in any position of authority during the later films. After all, he did bring us OOTP; pretty much the only HP film that actually showed Ron and Hermione being attracted to each-other (yes, I include DH 1&2 in that as well, since the Romione scenes in those films were often botched or handled clumsily). And he was able to do that in OOTP because the script-writer (Michael Goldenberg) wasn’t Steve Kloves. Kloves would go out of his way to avoid Romione moments whenever possible, whereas Goldenberg actually wrote lots of them into OOTP because he knew it reflected the book characters’ relationship. 

I’m not saying that this was OOC for Hermione (she was physically affectionate to Harry in the books too), and it is admirable that their sibling-like relationship is shown to be close. HOWEVER, the way that it was framed in the Kloves-penned films was that Hermione was Harry’s closest friend at the expense of Ron. The character who wore his heart on his sleeve, and was ‘the person Harry would miss most’. 

The whole reason Harry avoided talking to Ron and Hermione before he went to meet Voldemort was because he knew it would be too painful for all of them. Having Harry talk to them one last time just undercuts the emotional weight of the scene (which is still good, don’t get me wrong; but it could have been better if Harry didn’t try to talk to them).

It also doesn’t make sense from a character standpoint. Ron is far more emotionally open that Hermione is. He’s not going to be standing stoically at a distance whilst Hermione gives Harry a teary ‘goodbye’ hug. I think it also plays into the ‘no homo’ thing Hollywood impresses onto cinema (a rather futile move, considering that Ron gave Harry a running bear-hug in the previous film). Ron isn’t allowed to show Harry physical affection, because that would take focus away from Harry and Hermione’s relationship (which I think Kloves was very aware of when he wrote this scene). 

It’s the same problem that POA had in that scene where Harry’s crying after discovering that Sirius (allegedly) was the one who betrayed Harry’s parents. Hermione goes to comfort Harry, but Ron tries to hold her back, and doesn’t go anywhere near Harry. It’s the complete antithesis of what the character of Ron was about. 

From a film-making perspective, it seems great. But I don’t think it really fits the characters. What would have made more sense character-wise is Ron giving Hermione and Harry a massive hug and cradling them both in his arms, because Ron Weasley cares so much for both of them, and didn’t want to let Harry go. 

That’s just my two cents on the matter, though. Thanks for the tag, @fullyunabashedpeach!