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ronandhappiness:

lytefoot:

ronandhappiness:

lytefoot:

ronandhappiness:

burgundydahlia:

lytefoot:

headcanonsandmore:

whatifdestiel:

headcanonsandmore:

okay but instead of harry & ron asking the patil twins to the yule ball they go with each other

they’re dancing pretty goofily during most of the ball & even talking with hermione & viktor a little & suddenly the champions have to dance, right?

it’s a slow song. one about love & friendship. well ron starts leading harry in the dance & things get a little awkward because it wasn’t like before when they were a few feet apart. they’re up really close now. 

but it doesn’t really feel all that weird to ron. harry’s his best mate & it feels right to dance with him like this.  & then it hits him. maybe he doesn’t really see harry as his best mate at all. maybe harry is meant to be something more than that. 

so he leans in and gives harry a gentle kiss. 

ron thinks harry is gonna push him away but he doesn’t. harry just wraps his arms around ron and kisses him back. 

and that’s how ron became harry’s first love. 

(sorry if it’s not too good, i’m not much of a writer)


That was brilliant, @whatifdestiel! Thank you so much for submitting! Loved it all! 

Not gonna lie, though; I can’t help but wonder what Hermione’s reaction would have been. Jealousy, tears, setting a flock of birds on Harry?..

i might have to come up with something for how hermione reacts when she finds out that ron & harry were together. i personally think she’d be jealous but at the same time understand because “same harry! ron is way too amazing for his own good! it’s a wonder he doesn’t have a line of people waiting to date him!”

“because they know how you get when you are jealous hermione! they’d never dare touch ron with you around! you’d kill them!” 

I’d like to think that it would turn out that way. 

So I wanna talk about this, because it requires a really delicate touch. “What happens with Hermione” is a big challenge when writing Rarry, because it touches on three things that are really important to me in fic.

Most generally, it’s important that characters be entitled to totally justified feelings. In particular, if Ron and Hermione are already together, Hermione is absolutely entitled to be absolutely furious if Ron leaves her for Harry. I read a fic recently that did that really, really well. (She… didn’t actually try to kill them, which made her much more sympathetic.) She had justified angry feelings, but moved past them, and her friendship recovered. Which brings me to the second important thing.

Unless that’s the whole point of your fic, I feel like it’s super important not to break up the Golden Trio. Like, the trio’s love for one another is one of the core things that’s good about Harry Potter to me. Just like you shouldn’t make Ron a useless jerk-off to make Harmonie happen, you shouldn’t make Hermione an evil harpy to make Rarry happen. Furthermore, in the same way you shouldn’t play up how much Harry and Hermione being together breaks Ron’s heart, you shouldn’t play up how much Harry and Ron being together breaks Hermione’s heart. It’s just mean.

And that brings me to the third thing that’s kind of a big deal here–it’s never okay to bash a character for getting in the way of your ship. Because of the history of fanfic, it’s especially important not to bash a female character for getting in the way of a M/M ship. It’s important even when the female character is a cardboard cutout love interest created to highlight the male character’s heterosexuality; it’s even more important with a female character as important and well-developed as Hermione.

So… how is Hermione likely to react to Ron and Harry getting together before Ron and Hermione have articulated their feelings for one another? I don’t think she would react nearly as negatively as she did with Lavender, for a couple of reasons. First, Lavender is someone Hermione actively dislikes, and is an example of a kind of performative femininity that Hermione despises. Hermione is actively insulted when (in her perception) Ron chooses someone like Lavender over her, because Hermione feels very strongly that Lavender’s life choices are inferior to her own. On the other hand, Harry is someone she likes and admires; she knows what someone might see in him, even if she doesn’t. And second, Harry’s a boy. Hermione is very likely to see Ron and Harry getting together as less a “doesn’t like me” thing and more a “doesn’t like girls” thing. (It was the 90s. As someone who was a bi teenager in the 90s, that really wasn’t on the menu, especially for guys. Bi guys were gay but trying to hide it, bi girls were straight but trying to be cool. You still get this kind of biphobic narrative, but it was nearly universal back then. A teenage girl whose crush got a boyfriend would not be thinking “well maybe he’s bi,” she’d he thinking, “he’s gay and I never had a chance.”)

The right analogy for Hermione’s reaction might be, imagine you baked someone a cake and they wouldn’t eat it. You’d be a little annoyed if they picked a well-cooked steak instead, but the steak is still good, and it looks like they just didn’t want dessert. On the other hand, you’d be completely furious if they turned down your cake in favor of a twinkie.

Reblogging for @lytefoot’s (as usual) incredible and spot-on commentary

@lytefoot Hmmm…this is really eye opening.

This turned out to be super long so i’m keeping it in sections:

Lady characters in m/m ships:

Your commentary reminds me of a Dean/Ron fic that I’ve read. It was pretty good but I disliked how they treated Romione and Hermione. They made Ron and Hermione break up because Ron realised he was gay after the war.

I’m sorry…but no. Poor Hermione. I can’t wish that on Hermione. I just can’t. It’s cruel. It’s heartbreaking. Can you imagine crushing on a guy for – let’s go with – five years; seeing how he’s willing to face his phobia for you, fight for you, and get detentions for you, and when you finally pluck up the courage to show your feelings for him, you learn that he’s not even interested in you? 

Yeah, that would hurt. That would hurt a lot.

Hermione was heartbroken, and I was glad that the author didn’t blame it on her, but there was something else that bothered me.  After Ron came out of the closet, he didn’t give a shit about her. Ending Ron and Hermione’s relationship after the war is bad enough, but I can’t imagine Ron Weasley not caring about Hermione even if he weren’t her husband. I can’t imagine losing Romione even if Ron ended up with someone else. I would’ve appreciated any hints that Ron cared about Hermione. I would’ve liked it if we were told that Ron did love Hermione, even if if he didn’t love her like that. All we got was: 

Ron: I realised i was totally into guys and ditched hermione right after we got together lmao

Ron: yeah she was kinda pissed and that ruined our friendship hahahaha

Ron: do i miss her?

Ron: do I feel bad for hurting her?

Ron: will I mention her again?

Ron: …….

Ron: nah

Ron: *goes back to thinking about Dean’s arse*

[Later that day]

Ron: *speaking to a bloke who ditched his girlfriend for another bloke* Lol been there, done that. Chill buddy it’s not a big deal. Hermione got over it

Ron: *starts dreaming about Dean’s arse again*

*sigh* Seriously, guys. Don’t do this in your m/m fanfics. You need to learn how to treat the lady characters, and their friendship with the guys with respect. And no, not turning them into sl*ts or rapists /= respect. Sorry I don’t make the rules.

Ronarry and Romione:

ANYWAY, that’s why I’ve made it clear that Ronarry is an AU ship for me, which is awesome because creativity is awesome. I accept it in these scenarios:

  • A world where Hermione doesn’t exist. This is the easiest scenario. Is it bad? It’s born out of my love for Romione and respect for Hermione. No Hermione, no broken heart.
  • A world where Hermione had a small crush on Ron but Ron made it clear early on (say, around third or fourth year) that he was gay and in love with Harry. Yeah, Hermione was disappointed but not too upset or jealous. Her crush did not grow because she learned pretty quickly that she never had a chance. The golden trio’s friendship didn’t deteriorate at all, and Hermione became the captain of the Ron/Harry ship. Everyone was happy.

And…that’s it.

No, really. That’s it.

It physically hurts me to ship Ron with someone else, when Hermione is right there and in love with him. Canonically speaking, Hermione loves Ron (even if she has a funny way of showing it), therefore, I can’t seperate them after they’ve gotten together. Disregarding Romione doesn’t upset me because I think Ron can only be validated by Hermione’s love, or because I’m projecting myself into Hermione. It upsets me because I know how much these kids suffered with their feelings of inadequacy, insecurity and jealousy. If I end their relationship, it feels like I’m flushing their efforts down a toilet. It would mean that their efforts meant nothing. Hermione didn’t kiss Ron Weasley in the middle of the war for us to break them up in our fan fiction. Ron Weasley didn’t scream for Hermione in Malfoy Manor for us to break them up in our fan fiction. (Lol, this was supposed to be about Ronarry. How the hell did I start talking about Romione?)

I’m not interested in reading or writing any headcanons where Hermione gets super heartbroken and has to deal with her jealousy regarding the Ronarry. That kinda stuff gives me a headache. It makes me feel guilty for shipping Ron/Harry. Unlike most m/m shippers, I don’t have a fetish for gay smut. I don’t ship Ron/Harry because I have an irrational hatred for a female character for “getting in the way” of a non-canon ship. I ship Ron/Harry for the fluff and the Ronarry cuteness. While I love me some Hermione suffering, she doesn’t deserve to suffer because of Ron/Harry. Realistically speaking, if Ron and Hermione became a couple and then he broke up with her to be with Harry, things would be a little awkward between them. Hermione would feel like shit. Ron would always feel guilty for breaking her heart. And Harry would feel guilty because he’d feel like he stole Ron from Hermione. Ugh, now I have a headache.

Yeah, I don’t want that stuff. Don’t give me the “Hermione and Ron date and then he leaves her for another dude” stuff. I don’t want it.

Female character/Hermione bashing:

I’ve never read a Ronarry fic with Hermione bashing and I doubt I will. Most Harry Potter fans do have respect for Hermione and Hermione bashing is very rare in the HP fandom (And before any Hermione stan jumps at me, no, saying that Hermione makes mistakes does not mean bashing.) However, the reason Ron fans get angry when Ron is demonized or reduced to a useless jerk is because it’s out of character. The whole point of Ron’s arc in the books was that he wasn’t useless and he was very important, so you can excuse us for getting angry when you kill his character in your shitty fic. Adding to that, Abusive!Ron who physically hurts Hermione is out of character. As much as it hurts me to say this, abusive!Hermione who physically hurts Ron is canon. Hermione who can be a little evil is canon. (Please don’t hate me for saying this!)

I personally wouldn’t read a Ronarry fic that has Evil!Hermione, because it’s lazy writing. On the other hand, I understand that it may seem tempting for the fic writer to turn Hermione into a harpy, so Ron could seek comfort in somebody’s else’s arms. We have canonical evidence of Hermione losing her shit when Ron chose someone who wasn’t her, but it’s also easy, lazy, cheap, and lacks creativity, but many writers take the easy route nowadays. Again, I don’t support it because I refuse to bash the lady character just so two boys can be together. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: if you need to demonize character A to show how bad they are for character B and how good character C is, then you’re doing it wrong.

Biphobia/Acephobia:

@lytefoot I have a question. You’re saying that if Ron dated Harry, instead of Hermione, she wouldn’t be too upset, because she’d think that he was gay. However, what if Ron were bi or ace or pan instead of gay? Would Hermione be upset then? Say that Ron started dating Harry and Hermione asked him if we were gay. And Ron said something like, “No, I like girls too.” Would Hermione be upset then? Or would she convince herself that Ron was actually gay? Does this Hermione have internalized biphobia? I have a headache again.

Ginny Weasley:

Another reason why Ronarry is an AU ship for me. Because Ginny Weasley. I think it’s douchey to date someone that your sibling has a crush on. 🙂

Lavender Brown:

I’ve always thought that Hermione was angry because Ron dated someone who wasn’t her. The “Hermione gets angry when Ron dates someone who isn’t a good option in her eyes” brings new issues surrounding Hermione’s character and it doesn’t really put her in a positive light. It shows that she has a superiority complex and has put herself on a pedestal. It shows that Hermione thinks that girls who are feminine or not nerdy like her are bad. And I doubt Hermione would’ve been pleased if Ron had dated a smart girl, instead. Actually, that would’ve made things worse because Hermione would’ve thought that she wasn’t smart enough. If you’re right about this, then I like to think that the whole Lavender business was a learning experience for her, and taught her not to underestimate girls (or people in general) who are different from her.

@the-batty-beater I think you would find this helpful.

@ronandhappiness Really nice analysis, and I agree with a lot of that. Please forgive me if I miss a couple points, I’m super brain-fried right now.

Re: AU. I agree, Ronarry is an AU ship for me, too, but a fun one. I’m super happy with Ron and Harry being platonic soulmates and dudes who are capable of touching each other even though they don’t wanna bone. That’s kinda my jam. But Ronarry is so frickin cute.

If I’m going to do Ronarry–or any Harry ship, really, but especially Ronarry–I tone down just how much Ginny was into Harry: much more a “I had such a crush when I was 11” and much less… the kind of Hinny dynamic I love so much in the canon universe. And, I mean, Luna is right there.

And I absolutely tone down how much Hermione is into Ron, too, for Ronarry. That’s a harder one, because canon!Hermione was never really interested in anyone else. (I mean, Krum, but that felt absolutely like “going to a dance with you is fun” and not “I’m totes in love with you” to me.) While I can absolutely imagine Hermione being someone who can be happy single, and it feels bad to pair her off with some rando just to avoid guilt about taking Ron away from her, I also feel guilty about trying to take Ron away from her and have an intense urge to pair her off with some rando.

If you’re pre-HBP (and going canon divergence), you’ve got some plausible deniability on both the Ginny and the Hermione fronts. If you’re post-war by several years, you can pull, “We broke up somehow!” Although dating your sister’s ex is still maybe a little bit bad form.

Or, there’s also @vivithefolle ’s OT3 without the NoTP, but that’s hard, too, given the personalities involved. Harry and Hermione are both so insecure (at least in relationships) and so jealous that it’s hard to get them to share while keeping them in character.

(I do think that concern and respect for characters’ canon partners is an important thing to do when writing fic, just because it’s an important part of keeping them in character.)

Re: disappearing Hermione. Yeah, even if Ron and Hermione have no romantic interest in each other, they clearly care for each other deeply and have an important friendship. They hang out with just each other easily as often as Harry hangs out with just Ron, and that isn’t all mutual pining.

In one respect, that’s almost a genre feature of ship fic. If your fic is about this one relationship, the characters’ other relationships tend to fade into the background. But it’s annoying specifically in HP fic, specifically when it’s one of the trio being disappeared, because they’re, you know, important.

Re: biphobia. I definitely think the knee jerk assumption of “oh, so he’s gay,” is likely to temper Hermione’s immediate emotional reaction to Ron/Harry. If she’s calmed down enough to be actually having a conversation about Ron’s sexuality with him, that immediate emotional reaction is already passed.

I’d say it’s really likely that canon!Hermione has at least some attitudes imbibed from her culture. I tend to write her attitudes as more “fair for the time” than “conservative,” but she definitely has some unexamined notions. I’d expect her to come around fairly quickly, especially an older Hermione who’s already had a little practice in examining her views, but I’d expect her to make an assumptions.

(I have written [not with Ronarry] Hermione saying to Harry, “Okay, but if you like both, wouldn’t it be less trouble to just stick with girls?” To which Harry responded with something like, “I don’t know, Hermione, wouldn’t it have been less trouble if you’d just told Ron you liked him and spared us sixth year?” But I digress.)

Re: Hermione’s canon jealousy. I’m not really saying that setting birds on them is outside the range of in-character responses from Hermione, if Ron and Harry get together. She might well do that. If you want the key drama of your story to be how the Trio reconcile after that upset, it’s a viable option.

Rather, I’m trying to make a case that being more chill is also in character for her. Mostly because every time I see a Ronarry post around, at least one reply is something like, “Oh no, Hermione’s gonna try to kill them!” And it’s just… we don’t have to play it that way.

Re: Lavender Brown. Oh, absolutely Hermione feels superior to Lavender! She also feels that Ron is dating Lavender just to spite her! This is most obvious in the fact that her counter-move is to go out with McLaggan, who is a caricature of masculinity in the same way that (in Hermione’s view) Lavender is a caricature of femininity. I don’t think she learned that lesson in sixth year, either. I don’t think she learned that lesson until after the war.

I’m not sure you need to apologize for that! This was about Hermione, after all, and I’m the one who mentioned Ginny. 🙂

Exactly! I would never underestimate platonic Ronarry because it’s so freaking cute. I think it’s  important to show that two boys can be affectionate around each other (be cuddly and give each other kisses and stuff) and not be gay. So many men hesitate before being affectionate around their male friends because they’re afraid that people would think that they’re gay. J.K Rowling is definitely heteronormative but she deserves credit for writing Ron/Harry the way she did. It’s arguably the best friendship in the series and a beautiful representation of a healthy friendship between two boys.

Honestly, not only does loving Ronarry as an AU ship prevent me from sleeping on their platonic relationship, it also prevents me from turning into a delusional shipper (which is my fear.) While I love making shitposts and headcanons about Ron and Harry having a crush on each other, I think it’s good to remember that they’re just a figment of my imagination. I don’t want our fandom to turn into those Dreary and H*rmione shippers, and insist that there’s proof that Ron and Harry were in love with each other, and everyone else (including the author) was too blind to see it.

Fair enough. I guess it’s easier to address Hinny than the Romione. The Romione is more complicated than Hinny. And yes, Luna’s right there! Maybe we feel guilty about Hermione because we don’t ship Hermione with anyone who isn’t Ron? :’D

Rather, I’m trying to make a case that being more chill is also in character for her. Mostly because every time I see a Ronarry post around, at least one reply is something like, “Oh no, Hermione’s gonna try to kill them!” And it’s just… we don’t have to play it that way.

I agree. Like I’ve said, it’s bad to turn a female character into a psycho just to put two men together, but I was just pointing out that we’re overestimating Hermione if we expect her to be completely chill about Ron and Harry being a couple. Especially if you consider that Canon!Hermione is Ronsexual. Hermione reacting like, “I will kill you both!!! Ron Weasley is Hermione Granger’s property!!!” is ridiculous but Hermione turning into a yaoi fangirl and being all “Oh my god yay!!! OTP!! Go gays! Time to write Ronarry smut” is even more ridiculous. (You’d be surprised how often I’ve seen jokes about Ronarry being a fetish for Hermione. Jokes that I’ve admittedly reblogged as well. 😳)

She also feels that Ron is dating Lavender just to spite her!

Ugh don’t even get me started on this! Why would Hermione think that? Oh, nvm. According to Hermione, “We’re allowed to bring guests” somehow means “I’m in love you and I want to have your babies.” *sigh* Seriously, if Ron wanted to spite Hermione, he would’ve dated someone like Malfoy or Pansy, but he dated the first girl who showed interest in him. Thus, proving that the Lavender thing was more about his own insecurities than anything to do with “being spiteful to Hermione.”

“I don’t think she learned that lesson in sixth year, either. I don’t think she learned that lesson until after the war.”

Really? 😦 Alright then. I’m trying not to digress but how do you address this in your fics?

(I have written [not with Ronarry] Hermione saying to Harry, “Okay, but if you like both, wouldn’t it be less trouble to just stick with girls?” To which Harry responded with something like, “I don’t know, Hermione, wouldn’t it have been less trouble if you’d just told Ron you liked him and spared us sixth year?” But I digress.)

Oh snap.

Which fic is this?! I’d like to read it. 🙂

From last to first.

The bit of dialog is in a fic I’m not going to finish because everything I try to do with it gets weird and awful–but I am gonna reuse that line at some point. I write a fair amount of “Harry makes questionable life choices” fic, and it never gets to a point where it’s fit for human consumption. (Hermione’s real objection is not to the fact that Harry is crushing on a dude per se.) (Other choice Hermione lines include, “Merlin, Harry, if you’re going to self-destruct, can’t you just take drugs like a normal person?”)

As for Hermione’s relationship with femininity, I think it’s an ongoing struggle for her. There isn’t one big, dramatic incident that hits her like a bolt of lightning with, oh, maybe performative femininity isn’t all bad. Mostly it’s an ongoing process of growing up and mellowing, and realizing that other people’s way of doing things isn’t bad, it’s just different from hers. There is an entire giant essay in here that I’ve started to write six times just now and realized I’m too frazzled to adequately organize; another time. Suffice to say that Hermione’s sense of superiority to Those Other Girls is covering some substantial insecurities, and as she finds herself in a place where she feels more secure, she doesn’t need that sense of superiority as much.

I didn’t mean to suggest Hermione is right that Ron was dating Lavender to spite her. (I don’t think you took it that way? But wanted to make sure.) I do think she realized she was wrong about that sixth year, at least. 

“Hermione is a giant yaoi fangirl for Ronarry” is really funny, though! Have you seen the comic where the Cup is showing Hermione Harry and Ron making out, and Hermione’s like, “No, wait, let them finish!”? It’s funny. It’s partially funny because it’s seriously out of character. I also am not a fan of “Hermione is the Encyclopedia of Gayness,” going around explaining everyone else’s sexuality to them.

(Unless you mean the actual Encyclopedia of Gayness, which is a good paraphrase of the title of a book one of my former roommates actually had. So Hermione occasionally pops up at inopportune times to say, “Remember to use generous amounts of water-based lube!” or “If you get something stuck in any of your orifices, just go to the emergency room and be honest! They don’t judge and they’ve seen it before!” This is also a comic trope, however.)

Although, I do sometimes think having Hermione be the captain of the Ronarry ship is a good way to deal with her feelings for Ron–she started to develop a crush on Ron but then saw how much Ron and Harry were into each other and realized she didn’t have a chance. This is firmly in AU territory, but it’s canon-compatible through maybe fifth year. (If one is gonna do school-age Ronarry I feel like it needs to diverge from canon before HBP.)

Re delusional shipping: I feel like a lot of shipping discourse can get really muddled, because “I ship it” could mean any of the following: 

  1. “I think it should have been canon/endgame,” or
  2. “I think that an alternate timeline in which they got together could be a good one,” or
  3. “I think that in an alternate universe where all the details of their lives that mean they should never be together are removed, their basic personalities could make for a good relationship,” or even
  4. “While I don’t think the canon characters make a good couple, I enjoy the fan content associated with this ship and/or enjoy creating fan content for this ship.”

I can think of couples that fall into all four of these categories for me, and it feels weird that in discourse we describe them all the same way.

I know you didn’t mean that but I was just getting angry at Hermione. Not you! 🙂

I would love to read that essay! Your essays are on point. Most Hermione fics don’t really address her flaws (shocker) but I would love to read a fic or a meta where Hermione’s relationship with femininity is explored.

As a matter of fact, I was talking about that comic 😂😂 You’re right! It was really OOC. And it was funny but ehhh. That’s how you start fetishizing m/m couples. You start making harmless jokes, and then you start making top and bottom jokes, and before you know it, you’re talking about their sex lives and that’s it. If that happens to Ronarry, I’d probably leave the fandom.

I can see Hermione being the Encyclopedia of Gayness. It’s really in character for her, but I’m sure Ron and Harry would tell her to back off. (I’ve read Romione fics where Hermione does research and plans everything before her first time with Ron. I find them more in character compared to the “Ron and Hermione randomly have sex because they are super horny” fics.)

Yes! I don’t want to get influenced by the militant Ronarry shippers and that’s why I want to make it clear where I stand. I’m definitely category #2. I feel like people who are category #1 for non-canon ships (especially ships like Dr*mione and H*rmione) are delusional. While #3 and #4 aren’t exactly ships, because when you change the characters’ personalities, they are OCs. 🙂

Btw, if I’m annoying you, then let me know! And we’ve (well, I have) hijacked @headcanonsandmore’s post (I was trying not to but it happened), and I apologize for that. 🙂

@ronandhappiness Don’t apologise! I love the way this thread has gone! 🙂 

ronarry

ronandhappiness:

lytefoot:

ronandhappiness:

burgundydahlia:

lytefoot:

headcanonsandmore:

whatifdestiel:

headcanonsandmore:

okay but instead of harry & ron asking the patil twins to the yule ball they go with each other

they’re dancing pretty goofily during most of the ball & even talking with hermione & viktor a little & suddenly the champions have to dance, right?

it’s a slow song. one about love & friendship. well ron starts leading harry in the dance & things get a little awkward because it wasn’t like before when they were a few feet apart. they’re up really close now. 

but it doesn’t really feel all that weird to ron. harry’s his best mate & it feels right to dance with him like this.  & then it hits him. maybe he doesn’t really see harry as his best mate at all. maybe harry is meant to be something more than that. 

so he leans in and gives harry a gentle kiss. 

ron thinks harry is gonna push him away but he doesn’t. harry just wraps his arms around ron and kisses him back. 

and that’s how ron became harry’s first love. 

(sorry if it’s not too good, i’m not much of a writer)


That was brilliant, @whatifdestiel! Thank you so much for submitting! Loved it all! 

Not gonna lie, though; I can’t help but wonder what Hermione’s reaction would have been. Jealousy, tears, setting a flock of birds on Harry?..

i might have to come up with something for how hermione reacts when she finds out that ron & harry were together. i personally think she’d be jealous but at the same time understand because “same harry! ron is way too amazing for his own good! it’s a wonder he doesn’t have a line of people waiting to date him!”

“because they know how you get when you are jealous hermione! they’d never dare touch ron with you around! you’d kill them!” 

I’d like to think that it would turn out that way. 

So I wanna talk about this, because it requires a really delicate touch. “What happens with Hermione” is a big challenge when writing Rarry, because it touches on three things that are really important to me in fic.

Most generally, it’s important that characters be entitled to totally justified feelings. In particular, if Ron and Hermione are already together, Hermione is absolutely entitled to be absolutely furious if Ron leaves her for Harry. I read a fic recently that did that really, really well. (She… didn’t actually try to kill them, which made her much more sympathetic.) She had justified angry feelings, but moved past them, and her friendship recovered. Which brings me to the second important thing.

Unless that’s the whole point of your fic, I feel like it’s super important not to break up the Golden Trio. Like, the trio’s love for one another is one of the core things that’s good about Harry Potter to me. Just like you shouldn’t make Ron a useless jerk-off to make Harmonie happen, you shouldn’t make Hermione an evil harpy to make Rarry happen. Furthermore, in the same way you shouldn’t play up how much Harry and Hermione being together breaks Ron’s heart, you shouldn’t play up how much Harry and Ron being together breaks Hermione’s heart. It’s just mean.

And that brings me to the third thing that’s kind of a big deal here–it’s never okay to bash a character for getting in the way of your ship. Because of the history of fanfic, it’s especially important not to bash a female character for getting in the way of a M/M ship. It’s important even when the female character is a cardboard cutout love interest created to highlight the male character’s heterosexuality; it’s even more important with a female character as important and well-developed as Hermione.

So… how is Hermione likely to react to Ron and Harry getting together before Ron and Hermione have articulated their feelings for one another? I don’t think she would react nearly as negatively as she did with Lavender, for a couple of reasons. First, Lavender is someone Hermione actively dislikes, and is an example of a kind of performative femininity that Hermione despises. Hermione is actively insulted when (in her perception) Ron chooses someone like Lavender over her, because Hermione feels very strongly that Lavender’s life choices are inferior to her own. On the other hand, Harry is someone she likes and admires; she knows what someone might see in him, even if she doesn’t. And second, Harry’s a boy. Hermione is very likely to see Ron and Harry getting together as less a “doesn’t like me” thing and more a “doesn’t like girls” thing. (It was the 90s. As someone who was a bi teenager in the 90s, that really wasn’t on the menu, especially for guys. Bi guys were gay but trying to hide it, bi girls were straight but trying to be cool. You still get this kind of biphobic narrative, but it was nearly universal back then. A teenage girl whose crush got a boyfriend would not be thinking “well maybe he’s bi,” she’d he thinking, “he’s gay and I never had a chance.”)

The right analogy for Hermione’s reaction might be, imagine you baked someone a cake and they wouldn’t eat it. You’d be a little annoyed if they picked a well-cooked steak instead, but the steak is still good, and it looks like they just didn’t want dessert. On the other hand, you’d be completely furious if they turned down your cake in favor of a twinkie.

Reblogging for @lytefoot’s (as usual) incredible and spot-on commentary

@lytefoot Hmmm…this is really eye opening.

This turned out to be super long so i’m keeping it in sections:

Lady characters in m/m ships:

Your commentary reminds me of a Dean/Ron fic that I’ve read. It was pretty good but I disliked how they treated Romione and Hermione. They made Ron and Hermione break up because Ron realised he was gay after the war.

I’m sorry…but no. Poor Hermione. I can’t wish that on Hermione. I just can’t. It’s cruel. It’s heartbreaking. Can you imagine crushing on a guy for – let’s go with – five years; seeing how he’s willing to face his phobia for you, fight for you, and get detentions for you, and when you finally pluck up the courage to show your feelings for him, you learn that he’s not even interested in you? 

Yeah, that would hurt. That would hurt a lot.

Hermione was heartbroken, and I was glad that the author didn’t blame it on her, but there was something else that bothered me.  After Ron came out of the closet, he didn’t give a shit about her. Ending Ron and Hermione’s relationship after the war is bad enough, but I can’t imagine Ron Weasley not caring about Hermione even if he weren’t her husband. I can’t imagine losing Romione even if Ron ended up with someone else. I would’ve appreciated any hints that Ron cared about Hermione. I would’ve liked it if we were told that Ron did love Hermione, even if if he didn’t love her like that. All we got was: 

Ron: I realised i was totally into guys and ditched hermione right after we got together lmao

Ron: yeah she was kinda pissed and that ruined our friendship hahahaha

Ron: do i miss her?

Ron: do I feel bad for hurting her?

Ron: will I mention her again?

Ron: …….

Ron: nah

Ron: *goes back to thinking about Dean’s arse*

[Later that day]

Ron: *speaking to a bloke who ditched his girlfriend for another bloke* Lol been there, done that. Chill buddy it’s not a big deal. Hermione got over it

Ron: *starts dreaming about Dean’s arse again*

*sigh* Seriously, guys. Don’t do this in your m/m fanfics. You need to learn how to treat the lady characters, and their friendship with the guys with respect. And no, not turning them into sl*ts or rapists /= respect. Sorry I don’t make the rules.

Ronarry and Romione:

ANYWAY, that’s why I’ve made it clear that Ronarry is an AU ship for me, which is awesome because creativity is awesome. I accept it in these scenarios:

  • A world where Hermione doesn’t exist. This is the easiest scenario. Is it bad? It’s born out of my love for Romione and respect for Hermione. No Hermione, no broken heart.
  • A world where Hermione had a small crush on Ron but Ron made it clear early on (say, around third or fourth year) that he was gay and in love with Harry. Yeah, Hermione was disappointed but not too upset or jealous. Her crush did not grow because she learned pretty quickly that she never had a chance. The golden trio’s friendship didn’t deteriorate at all, and Hermione became the captain of the Ron/Harry ship. Everyone was happy.

And…that’s it.

No, really. That’s it.

It physically hurts me to ship Ron with someone else, when Hermione is right there and in love with him. Canonically speaking, Hermione loves Ron (even if she has a funny way of showing it), therefore, I can’t seperate them after they’ve gotten together. Disregarding Romione doesn’t upset me because I think Ron can only be validated by Hermione’s love, or because I’m projecting myself into Hermione. It upsets me because I know how much these kids suffered with their feelings of inadequacy, insecurity and jealousy. If I end their relationship, it feels like I’m flushing their efforts down a toilet. It would mean that their efforts meant nothing. Hermione didn’t kiss Ron Weasley in the middle of the war for us to break them up in our fan fiction. Ron Weasley didn’t scream for Hermione in Malfoy Manor for us to break them up in our fan fiction. (Lol, this was supposed to be about Ronarry. How the hell did I start talking about Romione?)

I’m not interested in reading or writing any headcanons where Hermione gets super heartbroken and has to deal with her jealousy regarding the Ronarry. That kinda stuff gives me a headache. It makes me feel guilty for shipping Ron/Harry. Unlike most m/m shippers, I don’t have a fetish for gay smut. I don’t ship Ron/Harry because I have an irrational hatred for a female character for “getting in the way” of a non-canon ship. I ship Ron/Harry for the fluff and the Ronarry cuteness. While I love me some Hermione suffering, she doesn’t deserve to suffer because of Ron/Harry. Realistically speaking, if Ron and Hermione became a couple and then he broke up with her to be with Harry, things would be a little awkward between them. Hermione would feel like shit. Ron would always feel guilty for breaking her heart. And Harry would feel guilty because he’d feel like he stole Ron from Hermione. Ugh, now I have a headache.

Yeah, I don’t want that stuff. Don’t give me the “Hermione and Ron date and then he leaves her for another dude” stuff. I don’t want it.

Female character/Hermione bashing:

I’ve never read a Ronarry fic with Hermione bashing and I doubt I will. Most Harry Potter fans do have respect for Hermione and Hermione bashing is very rare in the HP fandom (And before any Hermione stan jumps at me, no, saying that Hermione makes mistakes does not mean bashing.) However, the reason Ron fans get angry when Ron is demonized or reduced to a useless jerk is because it’s out of character. The whole point of Ron’s arc in the books was that he wasn’t useless and he was very important, so you can excuse us for getting angry when you kill his character in your shitty fic. Adding to that, Abusive!Ron who physically hurts Hermione is out of character. As much as it hurts me to say this, abusive!Hermione who physically hurts Ron is canon. Hermione who can be a little evil is canon. (Please don’t hate me for saying this!)

I personally wouldn’t read a Ronarry fic that has Evil!Hermione, because it’s lazy writing. On the other hand, I understand that it may seem tempting for the fic writer to turn Hermione into a harpy, so Ron could seek comfort in somebody’s else’s arms. We have canonical evidence of Hermione losing her shit when Ron chose someone who wasn’t her, but it’s also easy, lazy, cheap, and lacks creativity, but many writers take the easy route nowadays. Again, I don’t support it because I refuse to bash the lady character just so two boys can be together. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: if you need to demonize character A to show how bad they are for character B and how good character C is, then you’re doing it wrong.

Biphobia/Acephobia:

@lytefoot I have a question. You’re saying that if Ron dated Harry, instead of Hermione, she wouldn’t be too upset, because she’d think that he was gay. However, what if Ron were bi or ace or pan instead of gay? Would Hermione be upset then? Say that Ron started dating Harry and Hermione asked him if we were gay. And Ron said something like, “No, I like girls too.” Would Hermione be upset then? Or would she convince herself that Ron was actually gay? Does this Hermione have internalized biphobia? I have a headache again.

Ginny Weasley:

Another reason why Ronarry is an AU ship for me. Because Ginny Weasley. I think it’s douchey to date someone that your sibling has a crush on. 🙂

Lavender Brown:

I’ve always thought that Hermione was angry because Ron dated someone who wasn’t her. The “Hermione gets angry when Ron dates someone who isn’t a good option in her eyes” brings new issues surrounding Hermione’s character and it doesn’t really put her in a positive light. It shows that she has a superiority complex and has put herself on a pedestal. It shows that Hermione thinks that girls who are feminine or not nerdy like her are bad. And I doubt Hermione would’ve been pleased if Ron had dated a smart girl, instead. Actually, that would’ve made things worse because Hermione would’ve thought that she wasn’t smart enough. If you’re right about this, then I like to think that the whole Lavender business was a learning experience for her, and taught her not to underestimate girls (or people in general) who are different from her.

@the-batty-beater I think you would find this helpful.

@ronandhappiness Really nice analysis, and I agree with a lot of that. Please forgive me if I miss a couple points, I’m super brain-fried right now.

Re: AU. I agree, Ronarry is an AU ship for me, too, but a fun one. I’m super happy with Ron and Harry being platonic soulmates and dudes who are capable of touching each other even though they don’t wanna bone. That’s kinda my jam. But Ronarry is so frickin cute.

If I’m going to do Ronarry–or any Harry ship, really, but especially Ronarry–I tone down just how much Ginny was into Harry: much more a “I had such a crush when I was 11” and much less… the kind of Hinny dynamic I love so much in the canon universe. And, I mean, Luna is right there.

And I absolutely tone down how much Hermione is into Ron, too, for Ronarry. That’s a harder one, because canon!Hermione was never really interested in anyone else. (I mean, Krum, but that felt absolutely like “going to a dance with you is fun” and not “I’m totes in love with you” to me.) While I can absolutely imagine Hermione being someone who can be happy single, and it feels bad to pair her off with some rando just to avoid guilt about taking Ron away from her, I also feel guilty about trying to take Ron away from her and have an intense urge to pair her off with some rando.

If you’re pre-HBP (and going canon divergence), you’ve got some plausible deniability on both the Ginny and the Hermione fronts. If you’re post-war by several years, you can pull, “We broke up somehow!” Although dating your sister’s ex is still maybe a little bit bad form.

Or, there’s also @vivithefolle ’s OT3 without the NoTP, but that’s hard, too, given the personalities involved. Harry and Hermione are both so insecure (at least in relationships) and so jealous that it’s hard to get them to share while keeping them in character.

(I do think that concern and respect for characters’ canon partners is an important thing to do when writing fic, just because it’s an important part of keeping them in character.)

Re: disappearing Hermione. Yeah, even if Ron and Hermione have no romantic interest in each other, they clearly care for each other deeply and have an important friendship. They hang out with just each other easily as often as Harry hangs out with just Ron, and that isn’t all mutual pining.

In one respect, that’s almost a genre feature of ship fic. If your fic is about this one relationship, the characters’ other relationships tend to fade into the background. But it’s annoying specifically in HP fic, specifically when it’s one of the trio being disappeared, because they’re, you know, important.

Re: biphobia. I definitely think the knee jerk assumption of “oh, so he’s gay,” is likely to temper Hermione’s immediate emotional reaction to Ron/Harry. If she’s calmed down enough to be actually having a conversation about Ron’s sexuality with him, that immediate emotional reaction is already passed.

I’d say it’s really likely that canon!Hermione has at least some attitudes imbibed from her culture. I tend to write her attitudes as more “fair for the time” than “conservative,” but she definitely has some unexamined notions. I’d expect her to come around fairly quickly, especially an older Hermione who’s already had a little practice in examining her views, but I’d expect her to make an assumptions.

(I have written [not with Ronarry] Hermione saying to Harry, “Okay, but if you like both, wouldn’t it be less trouble to just stick with girls?” To which Harry responded with something like, “I don’t know, Hermione, wouldn’t it have been less trouble if you’d just told Ron you liked him and spared us sixth year?” But I digress.)

Re: Hermione’s canon jealousy. I’m not really saying that setting birds on them is outside the range of in-character responses from Hermione, if Ron and Harry get together. She might well do that. If you want the key drama of your story to be how the Trio reconcile after that upset, it’s a viable option.

Rather, I’m trying to make a case that being more chill is also in character for her. Mostly because every time I see a Ronarry post around, at least one reply is something like, “Oh no, Hermione’s gonna try to kill them!” And it’s just… we don’t have to play it that way.

Re: Lavender Brown. Oh, absolutely Hermione feels superior to Lavender! She also feels that Ron is dating Lavender just to spite her! This is most obvious in the fact that her counter-move is to go out with McLaggan, who is a caricature of masculinity in the same way that (in Hermione’s view) Lavender is a caricature of femininity. I don’t think she learned that lesson in sixth year, either. I don’t think she learned that lesson until after the war.

I’m not sure you need to apologize for that! This was about Hermione, after all, and I’m the one who mentioned Ginny. 🙂

Exactly! I would never underestimate platonic Ronarry because it’s so freaking cute. I think it’s  important to show that two boys can be affectionate around each other (be cuddly and give each other kisses and stuff) and not be gay. So many men hesitate before being affectionate around their male friends because they’re afraid that people would think that they’re gay. J.K Rowling is definitely heteronormative but she deserves credit for writing Ron/Harry the way she did. It’s arguably the best friendship in the series and a beautiful representation of a healthy friendship between two boys.

Honestly, not only does loving Ronarry as an AU ship prevent me from sleeping on their platonic relationship, it also prevents me from turning into a delusional shipper (which is my fear.) While I love making shitposts and headcanons about Ron and Harry having a crush on each other, I think it’s good to remember that they’re just a figment of my imagination. I don’t want our fandom to turn into those Dreary and H*rmione shippers, and insist that there’s proof that Ron and Harry were in love with each other, and everyone else (including the author) was too blind to see it.

Fair enough. I guess it’s easier to address Hinny than the Romione. The Romione is more complicated than Hinny. And yes, Luna’s right there! Maybe we feel guilty about Hermione because we don’t ship Hermione with anyone who isn’t Ron? :’D

Rather, I’m trying to make a case that being more chill is also in character for her. Mostly because every time I see a Ronarry post around, at least one reply is something like, “Oh no, Hermione’s gonna try to kill them!” And it’s just… we don’t have to play it that way.

I agree. Like I’ve said, it’s bad to turn a female character into a psycho just to put two men together, but I was just pointing out that we’re overestimating Hermione if we expect her to be completely chill about Ron and Harry being a couple. Especially if you consider that Canon!Hermione is Ronsexual. Hermione reacting like, “I will kill you both!!! Ron Weasley is Hermione Granger’s property!!!” is ridiculous but Hermione turning into a yaoi fangirl and being all “Oh my god yay!!! OTP!! Go gays! Time to write Ronarry smut” is even more ridiculous. (You’d be surprised how often I’ve seen jokes about Ronarry being a fetish for Hermione. Jokes that I’ve admittedly reblogged as well. 😳)

She also feels that Ron is dating Lavender just to spite her!

Ugh don’t even get me started on this! Why would Hermione think that? Oh, nvm. According to Hermione, “We’re allowed to bring guests” somehow means “I’m in love you and I want to have your babies.” *sigh* Seriously, if Ron wanted to spite Hermione, he would’ve dated someone like Malfoy or Pansy, but he dated the first girl who showed interest in him. Thus, proving that the Lavender thing was more about his own insecurities than anything to do with “being spiteful to Hermione.”

“I don’t think she learned that lesson in sixth year, either. I don’t think she learned that lesson until after the war.”

Really? 😦 Alright then. I’m trying not to digress but how do you address this in your fics?

(I have written [not with Ronarry] Hermione saying to Harry, “Okay, but if you like both, wouldn’t it be less trouble to just stick with girls?” To which Harry responded with something like, “I don’t know, Hermione, wouldn’t it have been less trouble if you’d just told Ron you liked him and spared us sixth year?” But I digress.)

Oh snap.

Which fic is this?! I’d like to read it. 🙂

Loving all of this thread! 

Also, I’m definitely guilty of making (and reblogging) those ‘Hermione has a thing about Rarry/Harron’ posts. Which, looking back, doesn’t really make a lot of sense. As much as it’s funny to write about, it’s very unlikely Hermione would find the prospect of her little-sort-of-brother snogged her ginger crush to be an attractive one. 

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‘I’ll go with you’

I’ll always ship Harry and Hermione, no matter what.

Just look closely at this moment which is the saddest of the whole saga to me. Harry just discovered that a part of Voldemort lives inside him which means he will have to die. Hermione knew, she always knew but hoped she was wrong. Harry is ready to

turn himself in to Voldemort. No, in fact he is not ready at all, but he has to go. He says goodbye to his best friends, but Hermione doesn’t want to let him go, at least not alone. She loves Harry and cares about him so much that she would prefer to die with him rather than live with Ron. She’s ready to give up everything for him once again, and if it’s not love, I don’t know what it is.

Remember when she said ‘We should just stay here, Harry, grow old’? Now her best friend is about to die and she doesn’t see the point in growing old anymore if it isn’t with him.

But of course Harry wants her to live, to be happy, so he tells her not to go with him. Hermione is broken and throws herself into her arms one last time, knowing that she won’t be able to do it another time. She gives him everything to face death, she gives him love, just as Lily did years before. Harry is broken, too. He loves Hermione so much and wants her to know it, he feels so lucky to have met her and is so grateful for everything she has done for him. She protected him during all these years, she gave him friendship, hope, bravery, love

She has stuck with him until the very end. 

At this moment, if you look closely at the third gif, you will notice that Harry is about to kiss Hermione because

words aren’t enough to express everything he feels. He eventually changes his mind because Ron is there as well and he doesn’t want to hurt him or their relationship, even if he knows he’s going to die in a few minutes.

Hermione knows, she always knows. She stands here, in tears, and sees him leave forever. She would have kissed him as well and is a bit disappointed he haven’t done it, and then she remembers Ron is her boyfriend.

“After you left,” he said in a low voice, grateful for the fact that Ron’s face was hidden, “she cried for a week. Probably longer, only she didn’t want me to see. There were loads of nights when we never even spoke to each other. With you gone…”

He could not finish; it was now that Ron was here again that Harry fully realized how much his absence had cost them.

“She’s like my sister,” he went on. “I love her like a sister and I reckon that she feels the same way about me. It’s always been like that. I thought you knew.”

-Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. Chapter 19: The Silver Doe.

Just saying.

Remember that part?

Im sorry, but I really cannot we on board with this ship. Harry has thought and said many times “friends friends friends friends friends SISTER” but its like people just wanna force a ship that does not want to sail. Shoot I would real a Dramione and appreciate that quicker than a Harmione.

That’s a lie, I’m sorry Drinny and Romione for even saying that lol. But still. Y’all get what I’m saying lol.

Anyways…..I’m sorry if I ruffle some feathers with my words, but out of respect for Harry himself and his own thoughts and words, I just cannot sail with this ship.

Honey, I don’t think she even read the book, considering that all her arguments are based on movies, so she obviously doesn’t remember this moment

Okay. *breathes in*

I’m not saying this because I want to bash the ship. If I ship Harmione, that’s great, if you ship Romione, that’s great too. I’m not going to be stupid and say, ‘my ship is better than yours’ just because I think so. We have different views. But I just feel like I’ll be doing this ship a huge disservice if I don’t speak up.

I’ve read the books, okay? I’ve read how Harry says he loves Hermione like a sister. I’ve read how Harry says that he doesn’t like Hermione’s company as much as Ron’s.

I get it, okay?

Harry says those things because he’s the narrator. He doesn’t show any romantic interest towards Hermione because that’s just how it’s supposed to happen. J.K. herself told us the reason why she paired up Ron and Hermione: because that’s how she envisioned it from the start. Ron already showed hints that he likes Hermione. One of the reasons why I don’t ship Ron and Hermione is because of the way Ron handled things. That isn’t what a healthy relationship is about. But that’s just me. That’s just me getting off topic so here’s the important part.

In The Philosopher’s Stone, Hermione is introduced as a bossy know-it-all. Ron loaths her, and Harry shares some of that. He didn’t like Hermione at first. But then trolls happen and she’s a whirlwind of books and bushy-haired bossiness, and they become friends. But before that—who remembered Hermione?

Harry.

Who’s the reason Hermione was crying in the first place?

I’m not going to answer that, just because it will appear as Weasley-bashing and I love the Weasleys. I just don’t think Ron could have made Hermione happy that’s all.

Okay so it’s time for the Chamber of Secrets. Here’s where Hinny is born. But to me that book reeked of Harmione goodness. When Hermione was petrified, Harry ‘couldn’t get her image out of his head’. He was affected. But when Ginny went missing, it was because of this brotherly feeling. It’s because she’s Ron’s sister. Also, in this book, it shows us how willing Hermione is to break the rules (which is a huge deal, considering her rule-abiding tendencies) just so she can help Harry.

In The Prisoner of Azkaban, here’s where I completely jumped off the Romione ship. First incident: the Firebolt. Harry’s mad at Hermione, yes, he felt betrayed, but as I read this part of the book (I still wasn’t a Harry and Hermione shipper when I read this) I sensed that Ron’s one of the reasons why Harry got so mad at Hermione. Ron just had to influence Harry’s judgement.

Harry knew that Hermione meant well, but that didn’t stop him from being angry with her.

So yeah. Harry knew Hermione meant well but he’s mad, and rightfully so.

What I don’t understand, however, is why Ron had to go even more ballistic than Harry. Guess why. Because Ron wanted to use the Firebolt so badly. He felt like Hermione took his Firebolt. Which isn’t the case at all. Now, if Ron had defended Hermione and told Harry that what she did was sensible, then I would’ve climbed aboard the ship. But he didn’t.

Second incident: Scabbers. I won’t even say anything except this. During Gryffindor’s celebration party, Harry approaches Hermione and tells her she should eat. And despite the fact that Harry had taken Ron’s side throughout this entire Scabbers deal, Hermione still found time (pun intended) to attend Harry’s Quidditch match. And then after that sweet moment Ron says something and then Hermione turns into Cho Chang (human hosepipe lol).

And then there’s the entire deal where Harry and Hermione saves Buckbeak and Sirius (but that’s just for my depression therapy).

GOBLET OF FIRE NOW! (Merlin this is long. Consider this my ship manifesto). Okay so despite everyone turning their backs on Harry, Hermione still believes him. Even Ron, his bestfriend, didn’t believe him. In this book we see loyalty. We see how their relationship is built upon trust and knowledge—knowledge about each other, about their intentions and capabilities. Hermione knows that Harry doesn’t want the limelight. And she trusts him.

Yule Ball now. Ron insults Hermione in this one. He tells her that no one would want to go to the ball with her, that no one in the right mind would want to go with Hermione Granger, and that she should just accept his invitation because he just knows that she’s desperate for a date. But then she appears as this beautiful girl with Viktor Krum. He even had the gall to accuse her of treachery!

Look, I know it’s out of jealousy, but come on! You’re the one who didn’t believe Harry in the beginning of the Tournament and you accuse Hermione of treachery? What in the name of Merlin’s pants—

*calms down*

Okay. But that’s irrelevant really, because Romione is canon and Harmione isn’t. That’s what this is about, right? Listen, J.K. had to put in some ‘anvil-sized’ hints just so she could pair these two together! Without those key moments of jealousy and whatnot, would people even consider shipping Romione?

Buuutt I’m just delusional, right?

In The Order of the Phoenix, Harry almost passes out when Hermione gets hit by Dolohov. He was so stupid at that moment, not checking for a pulse. He needed Neville of all people. He needed Neville Longbottom, klutz extraordinaire, (don’t get me wrong, I love him but that’s the truth), to check the pulse and tell him he’s alright. Harry was lightheaded—he almost passed out just because Hermione got hit. Now recall how he reacted with Ginny in the Chamber of Secrets. So there’s that. But, I dunno, it probably means nothing to you guys… and that’s fine because I’m just a delusional Harmione shipper.

Other than that, she also stays for the holidays so she could help Harry. Hell, even I was shocked when she hugged Harry when he’s in another one of those angsty states.

In The Half-Blood Prince, Hermione was terribly out-of-character. She becomes this petty, Lavender-Brown type of girl. I know it’s ridiculous, but she became a human hosepipe, and she doesn’t even seem interested in trying to decipher all these pensieve memories of Riddle. She’s too busy chasing Ron.

And that’s why I don’t ship it. J.K. had to make Hermione act so out-of-character in order to canonize the Romione ship.

Deathly Hallows now. Even if I’m in love with the dance scene, this will be the last time I’ll mention it because it isn’t in the books.

In the Horcrux Hunt, Ron’s departure played a huge role. The Horcrux amplified his deepest doubts, the nagging insecurities in his head. And that’s why I felt so bad for Ron. He wants to be a good friend, wants to stay, but then it’s too much for him and—

Right. So he leaves the two of his best friends and Hermione cries herself to sleep every night since. That’s the difference between the two relationships. Hermione cries for Harry, while Hermione cries because of Ron. She cries because he hurt her feelings, she cries because he just made another careless comment.

Other small reasons to love them:

  • Hermione attends all of Harry’s Quidditch matches, despite her lack of enthusiasm for the sport.
  • She’s the only person with Harry when he visited his parents’ grave for the first time.
  • “Oh Harry.” ‘Nuff said.
  • Harry’s the only one who remembered Hermione during the troll attack.
  • Dan and Emma’s chemistry.
  • A lot more…

Quotes, fanfiction recommendations, and entire ship manifesto on my blog

Side note: I come in peace.

Okay. I’m gonna have to correct you on some things.

Yeah Ron was wrong for calling Hermione a nightmare and making her cry first year. Very wrong. Harry was also wrong for being a part to her too before the whole troop thing, because he certainly was not trying to be her friend either.

In COS, Ron was just as affected over Hermione being petrified as Harry. When Harry was off doing what he needed to do without Ron, I guarantee you that Ron was at her side. As far as Ginny is concerned, I will agree. I’m not a Hinny shipper, never have been.

In POA, Ron had ZERO to do with how Harry felt about Hermione. With the Firebolt deal, Ron was mad because she turned the Firebolt in and hindered Harry. After they got it back, Ron was mad that she wasn’t properly handling her cat the way she should. He never told Harry that he had to choose his side. If Harry REALLY wanted to stick by Hermione, he would have done so.

Goblet of Fire. I’m sorry, but this will be in big letters, only because I really want this to be read.

NOWHERE IN THE BOOK DID RON EVER SAY THAT NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD WANT TO GO TO THE BALL WITH HERMIONE. HE NEVER EVEN SAYS ANYTHING CLOSE TO THAT. HE NEVER EVEN IMPLIES THAT SHE CANT GET A DATE. HE GETS JEALOUS BECAUSE SHE HAS ONE AND NAGS HER ABOUT WHO IT IS BECAUSE HE REALLY WANTS TO KNOW. YEAH HE GETS JEALOUS EVEN MORE WHEN HE FINDS OUT ITS KRUM SO HE SAYS THINGS THAT HE SHOULDN’T ABOUT HER FRATERNIZING, BUT STILL, HERMIONE GOES BACK AND HAS A GREAT TIME WITH KRUM. LATER THAT NIGHT YEAH THEY GET INTO IT, BUT THE NEXT DAY, HARRY SAYS THAT THEY ARE FINE AND FRIENDLY TO EACH OTHER, INDICATING THAT THEY HAD A CONVERSATION THAT HARRY MISSED AND SORTED IT OUT AND MADE UP.

Sorry, I am very passionate that the actions of GOF are told right.

Moving on. OOTP, okay that’s his best friend, of course he would be that way over Hermione getting hit. Ron couldn’t do anything because he was already messed up from the brains, which was not his fault because he got his with a hex too. And she didn’t stay the holidays to really help Harry. She stayed because of Ron and what happened to his dad. Yeah she would be there for Harry even with him being angsty, that is her friend. That’s what she does. But if Mr. Weasley wasn’t attacked, she would have went skiing with her parents.

In HBP. Hermione isn’t out of character at all. She is a 16 year old. Scratch that, 17 year old because her 17th birthday had passed when all that ish went down. Just because she is an intellectual, doesn’t mean she doesn’t experience jealously. Lavender wasn’t even the first time she had shown jealously. She didn’t like when Ron would fawn over Madam Rosemerta, and she also didn’t like when he would fawn over Fleur, despite him not being able to help himself. She may not have went as far as she did with the Lavender situation, but there you go. She is still a teenage girl with real feeling and no proper idea how to truly express them. Even though they have to save the world, they are still teenagers with teenage problems and they still go through them. A lot of people forget that.

Deathly Hallows is basically the icing on the Romione cake. So I really don’t even need to explain that. Hermione and Harry didn’t even function properly while Ron was gone. And that entire statement Harry makes to Ron seals it all up.

With your other points:

1. She attends them because she is his friend. Friends cheer other friends on.

2. She is the only one there because Ron could not find them. Guarantee you if he could he would have been there too.

3. She said “Oh Harry” because Hermione likes recognition and praise. Not because she was swooning because the words came from Harry.

4. Dan and Emma didn’t have nearly enough chemistry as Rupert and Emma. Those two were attached to the hip. You can see it in pictures, clips, when you read statements they made, etc.

Keep your ship. Love it. But please don’t downplay Ron to make it work.

I’m not going to be a damn hypocrite so I’ll take your advice. I’ll keep my ship and love it.

I’m not running out of words to say, I’m not saying this because someone won, because I’m sure as hell that this isn’t a fight. Thanks for telling me why you ship Romione—I have a lot of friends who ship them too and so far your explenation’s the best explenation yet.

We obviously like different things and see things differently, so I’m not pushing the subject. Because if I do, we’ll be running in circles trying to explain to each other why we ship our respective ships.

Keep being awesome and doing your thing. =)

p.s. you’re awesome for reading the whole thing just wanted to tell you that. Also: you earned my respect because of that. It’s not like I didn’t respect you before that, but still more respect.

p.p.s. you’re a Gryffindor too? Cool!

You’re the very first Harmione shipper that I’ve experienced that didn’t rip me apart, and I respect that. A lot of people have said some cold things about Ron, Romione, and myself as a rebuttal. Very messed up.

I’m not that big on Harry for starters anyways. But with Harmione, I wouldn’t bash him to justify Romione. He didn’t really do anything wrong to Hermione to do so other than have his little petty moments here and there, which both boys did. I just felt he needed to be with someone that would really really help him with his mental state. Luna would have been perfect. Or with someone that would be independent, but also put up with his antics because she had some bs of her own, and if Pansy wasn’t such a b***h and bigot, I would choose her. Twisted I know lol, but I’ve written a couple Pots N Pans fics and I like messing with their dynamics. I really don’t think he and Ginny fit at all. I feel like he was with her so he could be a Weasley on the real. But that’s another debate lol.

And thanks, you’re awesome too. Even more cuz we rep the same house. GO GO GRYFFINDOR!!

I’m gearing up for other Harmione shippers tho. I’ve already gotten a few hate messages regarding my words to you.

Ignore the hate messages. They’re crappy.

My post was supposed to be a Harmione one. I posted it months ago, lots of people enjoyed it.. So why Romione shippers feel the need to come and tell us our ship isn’t valid? You know what I do when I come across a Romione post? I ignore it. Because I don’t like Romione. I suggest you do the same and let people ship what they want. I read the books and all I saw was Harmony. If you didn’t, great for you. End of the story.

@jacksonspottersandcurrys you already know I respect you, so pleas do not take what I’m saying to the reblogger to heart. I just sense attitude.

I’m glad you see Harmione while reading. Even though Harry nor Hermione saw it. Of course we are gonna speak up when we feel like you’re coming for Ron. Talking about she rather die with Harry than live with Ron. That’s rather rude. What did Ron do?

I really don’t see how you saw it for Harry and Hermione when Harry himself says throughout the whole book series that it isn’t as fun to hang with Hermione by himself as it is Ron. And then days in both Deathly Hallows that they are only friends. And in Deathly Hallows, says “She’s like a sister. I love her like a sister, and I reckon she feels the same.” Like I didn’t even wanna disrespect, but Harry doesn’t even ship Harmione.

Enjoy your ship, just don’t downplay Ron to justify it and make it seem like Hermione doesn’t GAF about him when he was just as much her best friend as Harry.

Whoo boy this is long. A lot to unpack here! 

Ok, so to @rinachuu​– ship whatever you like. If you want to post Harmonie stuff without input from anyone else, create a community for that- make your posts private.

If you post in a public forum- there will be people weighing in on it. The forum you chose to post your very long opinion on is a public one. You posted analysis of the books movies that people want to engage with. You don’t want it engaged with? Well, chose a private forum then. If you want to give unquestioned sermons to the choir about a ship, you chose the wrong place to do that, kid. :

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To @jacksonspottersandcurrys

I just don’t think Ron could have made Hermione happy that’s all.

I get your reasoning behind this given what all you typed, but that ignores a lot of the book where it’s quite obvious Hermione rarely laughs or has fun without Ron. Like, she’s not a very fun or relaxed person- In the movies she laughs and has fun without Ron quite a lot*, but in the books that is not the case. She and Harry are quite all-business and no fun when it’s just the two of them in the books. This doesn’t make their friendship mean any less- it’s just not what makes Hermione happy, nor is it what makes Hermione romantically interested.

Keep reading

This thread is massive, but very interesting to read. 

ronweasleydefensesquad:

Okay I’ve just seen someone on a Romione thread say that Post-locket!Ron was “less of an insecure, bullying git, more compassionate […]” and I just –

Can you NOT?

Because it freaking annoys me to see people completely gloss over the book’s text, I decided to compile a small (and non-exhaustive) list of the awesomeness that is Ron Weasley. Because we Ron-lovers love to talk about that chess match or that time he stood up on a broken leg… how about the time where he gave Dobby brand new socks and his own jumper for Christmas? How about the time when he helped Harry dress in his pyjamas? How about I actually give you that list instead of rambling uselessly, yeah I’m gonna do that.

Kindness, generosity and basically the most supportive friend ever

  • Ron meets Harry on the train, is awed by his scar for a few seconds, then they start talking a little. Harry expresses his fear of not being good at magic; instead of feeling relieved that even the hero of the world is just like him”, Ron makes it a point to reassure Harry, telling him how Muggleborns do just fine at Hogwarts. He’ll try to split his corned-beef sandwiches with Harry even though they’re the sole food he has for the entire journey, and immediately gives Harry an extensive training course about wizard candy without sounding condescending (something Hermione can’t do).
  • This was so unfair that Harry opened his mouth to argue, but Ron kicked him behind their cauldron.
    “Don’t push it,” he muttered, “I’ve heard Snape can turn very nasty.”
    […]
    “Cheer up,” said Ron, “Snape’s always taking points off Fred and George. Can I come and meet Hagrid with you?” pg 139, Philosopher’s Stone

    M’aaaaawwww look at this little sweetie giving advice to his best friend and cheering him up and expressing genuine interest in knowing his friend’s friend better ♥

  • “You don’t know that you’ll make a fool of yourself,” said Ron reasonably. “Anyway, I know Malfoy’s always going on about how good he is at Quidditch, but I bet it’s all talk.” – pg143, Philosopher’s Stone

    RONALD WEASLEY IS THE OFFICIAL VOICE OF REASON, SORRY HATERS I GOT THAT IN PRINT

  • During the flying lesson, Harry mentions how he hears “an admiring whoop from Ron”, which totally underlines how deeply jealous and resentful Ron is that Harry is doing well at something. //sarcasm
  • Ron visibly feels bad when he realizes that Hermione overheard him saying that she was a nightmare. Tell me again how he’s insensitive?
  • Ron, probably by talking with Harry, discovers that his best mate is not going to receive Christmas presents from his family. What’s the son of Molly Weasley to do? Write his Mum of course, so his best friend gets the Christmas he rightly deserves! What a beautiful child ♥
  • After he misinterprets Quirrell’s little chat with Snape, Harry attemps to cheer up the nervous teacher by giving him encouraging smiles (wonder how Voldemort might have taken this…) while Ron loudly tells off anyone who mocks his stutter. These dorks, oh my god, they’re adorable.
  • Ron’ll also punch Malfoy after being finally provoked one too many times – first Malfoy insults Neville, then Harry, then Ron, then Ron, then Harry again and Ron’s poverty – and Ron snaps. As Harry returns from his Quidditch match, Ron cheerfully announces (with a bleeding lip) that he’s given Malfoy a black eye, and he praises Neville (who’s on his way to the hospital wing) who tried to take on both Crabbe and Goyle by himself. Aww, you tried, Neville, you tried.
  • In second year, we get one of Ron’s most memorable moments: the Dursley Heist where Harry is freed from the “care” of his relatives and sweeped away to the Burrow! Consider how Ron is an insecure darling, he must have first thought that Harry had realized he didn’t want to be friends with a Weasley and… waitwaitwait, he did say his family treated him like crap, right? Oh shite what if that’s what’s been going on?
    This also displays that Ron is a great listener – but only when the subject happens to interest him… and his best mate is a favourite subject of his!
  • Sharing your sandwich with someone you’ve just met? How about share your entire home and family even though money’s low and you feel overshadowed by all your siblings? Now that is what I call generosity.
  • Ron tells Harry “we’re going through the Floo”. Harry is bemused by the term and asks what it is. Ron apologizes about forgetting that Harry never took the Floo Network before and immediately explains him what it is, again, without sounding condescending. And people would rather headcanon Hermione as a teacher?!
  • When Harry’s arm gets un-boned by Lockhart, Ron helps Harry put on his pyjamas. That’s seemingly a small thing but look – it’s very much a brotherly, if not outright parental gesture. Ron is best dad-mom.
  • When Hermione turns herself into a cat, Ron and Harry both come to give her her homework – Ron gently teasing her to drop her books and enjoy her rest, she’s going to ace these exams anyway…
  • When Ron and Hermione go to Hogsmeade in Prisoner of Azkaban, Harry notes that the both of them look like “they’ve had the time of their lives”. Take that, people who say Ron and Hermione only ‘tolerate’ each other for Harry’s sake!
  • When Hagrid is crying his heart out over Buckbeak’s condemnation, Hermione says she’ll do research to help, and Harry looks at Ron to get him to say something. Ron blurts out “shall I make a cup of tea?” and when Harry stares in disbelief…
    “It’s what my Mum does whenever someone’s upset.” Aaaaawwwww.
  • When Harry is caught having the Maraudeurs’ Map by Snape, Remus arrives to the rescue… and Ron does, too, having ran from Hogsmeade to Hogwarts just so he can say he’s the one who “bought” the Map at Zonko’s. Hogsmeade and Hogswarts are quite distanced from one another, and there are tricky stairs in Hogwarts, but will that stop the storm of kindness that is Ronald Weasley? No it won’t!
  • Ron just wanted one thing – for Hermione to finally acknowledge that she hurt his feelings, badly, and to apologize about that. When he sees Hermione crying over Buckbeak’s impending execution and how she can’t help for the appeal? He immediately volunteers to help her, and when she actually does say she’s sorry, he downplays his feelings by saying “oh you know, he was old, plus I might get an owl you know”. Absolute, complete, pure sugary sweetheart.
  • Just after receiving the soon-to-be-named Pigwidgeon from Sirius, Ron, in an act of pure Ron-ness that will never stop making me squeal because it’s just so adorable: he puts Pig under Crookshanks’ nose, asking him “Are you fine with an owl?” and Crooks purrs in response. Crookshanks and Ron are best buddies, sorry I don’t make the rules.

  • Ron is furious at his mum for giving him horrible second-hand robes – note that she’s gushing over how Harry’s bring out his eyes in the same scene, she’s actually treating Harry more like her son than Ron here!! – but does he get angry at Harry and blames him for his mum’s favoritism like many kids would do? Nope, he doesn’t, because he knows it’s not Harry’s fault. We call that maturity, people.
  • People are quick to bring their torches and pitchforks when Ron gets pissed at Harry in Goblet of Fire but may I remind you of this:

    “What do you reckon?” Ron asked Harry. “Be cool to enter, wouldn’t it? But I s’pose they might want someone older…. Dunno if we’ve learned enough….”

    Ron is saying “we”. Ron is implying that both Harry and he will try and enter the Tournament.
    Had they both put their names in the Goblet and Harry’s had come up, Ron would have felt a bit envious, then shrugged and said “hey, fair enough, I never defeated You-Know-Who after all”.

  • “I expect gran’d want me to try though. She’s always going on about how I should be upholding the family honor. I’ll just have to — oops…” Neville’s foot had sunk right through a step halfway up the staircase. There were many of these trick stairs at Hogwarts; it is second nature to most of the older students to jump this particular step, but Neville’s memory was notoriously poor. Harry and Ron seized him under the armpits and pulled him out, while a suit of armor at the top of the stairs creaked and clanked, laughing wheezily. “Shut it, you,” said Ron, banging down its visor as they passed.

    Ronald Weasley, defender of the bullied! I still don’t know where Ron-bashers get their “Ron is a bully” shit from.

  • Harry heard a tiny pop! in the fire behind him and knew Sirius had gone. He watched the bottom of the spiral staircase. Who had decided to go for a stroll at one o’clock in the morning, and stopped Sirius from telling him how to get past a dragon?
    It was Ron. Dressed in his maroon paisley pajamas, Ron stopped dead facing Harry across the room, and looked around.
    “Who were you talking to?” he said.
    “What’s that got to do with you?” Harry snarled. “What are you doing down here at this time of night?”
    “I just wondered where you –“ Ron broke off, shrugging. “Nothing. I’m going back to bed.”

    Rooooooon. Ron, were you trying to check up on Harry to see if he was okay? Even though you two weren’t talking to each other at the moment? Were you going to try to amend fences before the First Task? Aaaaaawww, Ron, you try to act like an Ice King but I’m not fooled, I know you’re sweeter than ice cream.
    (note how it’s Harry who “snarls” and is visibly aggressive here)

  • Remember that in fourth year Harry gives Dobby an old pair of Uncle Vernon’s socks for Christmas. But Ron, ever supportive of the outsiders, gives Dobby a pair of his very own socks as well as the brand new Weasley jumper he just received.
    Remember how Ron despises his hand-me-downs? Here we see him part with brand new clothes just for a house-elf he hardly knows. Tell me how the kiss in DH was “the first instance where Ron respected house-elves” again? Or that he was “prejudiced” against house-elves? When he says that Winky isn’t human, he’s not being insenstive – he’s stating a fact. House-elves are not part of the human race – so they need to be treated differently than humans. Ron doesn’t condone the abuse of house-elves, but he understands that freeing them isn’t the solution either.
    (Dobby was happy working. He could have gotten a raise in his salary and he refused it, because he doesn’t want too much freedom, he prefers working! He said it to Hermione’s face, even! And the girl STILL insists on making S.P.E.W.. *sighs*)
  • Ron immediately worries about Hermione’s reputation when she talks back to Rita Skeeter. “You don’t want to make Rita Skeeter angry…” And then, he’s furious on her behalf when Rita slanders her name: “She’s making you look like some sort of… of… scarlet woman!” Oh god I love my naive ginger child.
  • In Order Of The Phoenix, the first thing Harry usually sees after waking up from a nightmare is Ron looking worriedly at him.
    Ron shakes Harry awake when his nightmares get too bad.
    Ron probably jerks awake when he hears the first sounds of Harry having a nightmare and immediately take steps to comfort him. How dare people bash this literal angel?!
  • Ron sees Hermione hiding various items of clothing over the common room. Hermione blushes when Ron loudly calls her out for trying to trick the elves – which means she’s aware that what she’s doing is underhanded and deceitful. Even so she refuses to admit she’s wrong, because to her “the end justifies the means” and goes to bed feeling quite smug. Ron, furious on behalf of the elves, puts the hats well on display so they won’t pick them up.
    Again, how is Ron the one who is “insensitive to the plight of house-elves”? He’s actually the most considerate of their feelings and their rights to choose what they want for themselves.
  • HE GIFTS HERMIONE PERFUME FOR CHRISTMAS, HE’S TRYING SO HARD
  • Ron is almost brought to tears by discovering what happened to Neville’s parents. My boy has so much compassion and I’ll forever hate Hermione for saying he had “the emotional range of a teaspoon” because the harpy’s actually projecting her own faults on Ron there.
  • When they’re passing their O.W.L.s, Hermione is in full-blown neurotic mode and almost works herself into an early grave, if it wasn’t for Ron mothering her, scolding her for not eating and depriving herself of sleep. The absolute mom-friend.
  • Ginny says she’s not dating Michael Corner anymore and Ron, pleased, says “you might want to date someone better next time” before pointedly looking at Harry. Harry notices. And despite Ron displaying all the subtlety of a rhino on steroids lost in a China shop, Harry will spend the better half of Half-Blood Prince moping about how his building attraction to Ginny is a betrayal of Ron – DUDE, HE WANTS TO BE YOUR BROTHER-IN-LAW ALREADY
  • Ron is pretty much the only person in the Weasley household, aside from Bill, to treat Fleur with any kind of respect. Sure, he’s entranced by her Veela aura sometimes – but he doesn’t call her “Phlegm” (did Ginny actually thought she was being witty here?) and he defends her.
    Funny, isn’t it, how Hermione is considered by many readers to be a feminist icon, but when there’s a pretty girl in the room she’ll treat her coldly and callously because how dare you be pretty when I’m not. Totes a good example for little girls, that.
  • Sixth year was a bad year for Ron. His friends are all invited in an elitist club that only accepts members with noticeable things about them, his little sister insults his lack of romantic experience (and I repeat that I believe that Ron was saving himself for Hermione, because come on, he says “scarlet woman” instead of sl*t/sl*g, he grew up hearing the stories of Beedle the Bard, he lived with Percy, of course he’s a big prude), he learns that Hermione is seemingly not interested in him… So he’ll heal his own heartbreak by getting over Hermione and trying to settle with somebody else.
  • Ron tries to get Lavender to chuck him, both because he’s a teenage boy terrified of the wrath of “a woman scorned” (who can blame him after those canaries?) and can’t find the courage to break up himself, and also because in his own naive logic, he thinks that if it’s Lavender doing the break-up, her feelings won’t be hurt. When he notices that she indeed feels bad about it, he feels guilty and ashamed. Aww, Ronnie, you little sweetie.
  • HOLDING HERMIONE AT DUMBLEDORE’S FUNERAL
  • HOLDING HERMIONE’S HAND IN HIS SLEEP AT GRIMMAULD PLACE
  • Fretting over the Cattermole’s fate (two complete strangers he’s never met before), hoping they’ll get out alright and leave the country as fast as they can, even though he’s just gotten his arm mangled by Hermione’s botched Side-Along and is still in pain? How can people say he’s insensitive or has the emotional range of a teaspoon?!
    (Hermione is said in the text to look as if she’s going to kiss Ron and Harry decides to break her reverie here and there. Harry Potter, more like Harry Blocker)
  • To make up for his departure, even though Hermione’s in a snit because how dare Ron have independance and individual thoughts and feelings and Harry is doing nothing, Ron takes on a very upbeat and cheerful attitude and basically carries the Horcrux Hunt on his shoulders, encouraging to double-check some places in case they missed something the first time. Useless, of course, since the camping trip accomplished pretty much nothing, but points for trying, Ron.
  • At Dobby’s burial, Ron is right here helping Harry dig the grave, the Muggle way… and you know what else he does? He takes off his socks and trainers to bury Dobby with something on his feet – since Dobby loved socks so much. Tell me Hermione, why didn’t you kiss Ron at that moment instead of waiting till the beginning of the battle?

Magical knowledge, instinct, and sheer power

  • Okay, think a minute, people. We know Hermione is good at magic because she managed to perform a good Wingardium Leviosa that made her feather fly twenty inches above her desk. Yes, it sure is impressive for a young girl who didn’t know magic existed four months ago!
    Yes, Hermione is good. But Ron is better.
    Because, not even a few hours after Hermione did said excellent Wingardium Leviosa, Ron casts a Wingardium Leviosa that makes a troll’s club FLY twelve feet in the air, a troll’s club heavy enough to crush bathroom sinks to dusk, and it falls with enough force to knock the troll out cold in one hit!
    Even more impressive? That was Charlie’s wand. Ollivander says “a wizard can use any wand, but their own will always work better”. This is Ron powering through the difficulty of wielding a wand that doesn’t belong to him and triumphing. Pretty darn amazing to say the least.
  • When Harry discovers the Mirror of Erised, Ron is genuinely excited to see Harry’s family in it. He gets momentarily distracted by his own desire reflected in it (his wish to live up to his brothers’ legacy); later, when Harry will try to return to the mirror to see his family again, Ron is worried and tells him he doesn’t think it’s a good idea. This demonstrates, for the first time, Ron’s intuitiveness about magic and the ways it can be misused – Harry and Hermione are Muggle-raised, to them, magic is something amazing, that allows extraordinary things; they don’t realize just yet how badly it can be harnessed to serve one’s darker intentions. Ron has “a bad feeling about this mirror”, and considering that Harry’s confrontation with Voldemort will happen right in front of it, well… he’s right, you know?
  • Ron’s magic makes a comeback when Malfoy insults Hermione, calling her a Mudblood. Charlie’s wand is in very, very bad shape: it’s constantly hissing and doing weird things, it’s a disaster whenever Ron attempts to use it.
    And Ron may have cursed himself instead of his intended target, but let’s face what else he did: he cast a nonverbal charm, at age 12 (something you don’t learn before your 6th year at Hogwarts), with Charlie’s broken wand, and his Slug-Belching Curse lasts about eight hours (all throughout the day he is mentioned to dash to the toilets whenever he feels a slug coming up, and he’s liberated after another “slug-attack” that causes him to spit them all over Tom Riddle’s award).
    (Also, for Hermione fans who are Ron-bashers: Hermione herself tells us that the Slug-Belching Curse is already a spell that’s hard to cast, so with a broken wand it’s even worse. There you go, Ron IS powerful, it’s Hermione-approved. :D)
  • We see Ron’s instinct return in Chamber Of Secrets, when Harry tries to retrieve the diary from Moaning Myrtle’s toilets:

    Harry and Ron looked under the sink where Myrtle was pointing. A small, thin book lay there. It had a shabby black cover and was as wet as everything else in the bathroom. Harry stepped forward to pick it up, but Ron suddenly flung out an arm to hold him back.
    “What?” said Harry.
    “Are you crazy?” said Ron. “It could be dangerous.”
    “Dangerous?” said Harry laughing. “Come off it, how could it be dangerous?”
    “You’d be surprised,” said Ron, who was looking apprehensively at the book. “Some of the books the Ministry’s confiscated – Dad told me – there was one that burned your eyes out. And everyone who read Sonnett of a Sorcerer spoke in limericks for the rest of their lives. And some old witch in Bath had a book that you could never stop reading! You just had to wander around with your nose in it, trying to do everything one-handed. And –“
    “All right, I’ve got the point,” said Harry.

    Ron actually listens to his Dad. Had Malfoy Sr tried to give the book to him, Chamber of Secrets would be a very different book indeed – maybe Harry Potter and the Year Everything Was Fine – but of course Harry just says “lol I don’t care” and grabs the diary anyway. Harry, get your survival instincts checked out one of these days, yeah?

  • Ron’s intuition also does him right in Prisoner of Azkaban, where he just knows there’s something weird about Crookshanks. Turns out Hermione’s cat had Kneazle (a breed of magical cat) ancestry.
  • Beginning of JKR’s descent into narcissism (Goblet of Fire); she gives Hermione the task to explain in fear what the Dark Mark is – what?! No! Hermione might have read about the Dark Mark, but it should be Ron who’d react by being visibly terrified! Bill and Charlie and even Percy probably had nightmares about the “snake in the head”! Ron’s the Pureblood, he’s lived through the aftermath of the war – making Hermione scared and Ron dumbfounded doesn’t make sense!!
  • Ahem, sorry, so, Goblet of Fire – Ron says “a really clever Dark wizard could fool Dumbledore” when Hermione tells him to stop mistrusting Snape so much. Guess who showed up as a Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher?
  • Also from Goblet of Fire: we get an idea of how Ron is extremely sensitive to suggestion magic. Veelas and half-Veelas have him under a death grip, much to his embarrassment and mortification; Fake!Moody hits him with the Imperius Curse and lifts it, but despite this, Ron is still skipping steps twenty minutes later, which proves how badly this kind of magic can take a hold on him. I have a few theories for this, one being that since Ron is so eager to please his friends and family, he obeys in fear of being abandoned if he doesn’t comply, he obeys because he thinks it’s the right thing to do to make his friends happy, he obeys because he believes it’s what he needs to do to be accepted.
    Yes, I like making myself sad.
  • In Order Of The Phoenix, Ron’s crazy powerful magic makes a glorious comeback when he takes his O.W.L.s. Just look at this:

    On the whole, Harry thought [his Charms O.W.L.] went rather well. His levitation charm was certainly much better than Malfoy’s had been, though he wished he had not mixed up the incantations for Colour Change and Growth Charms, so that the rat he was supposed to be turning orange swelled shockingly and was the size of a badger before Harry could rectify his mistake his mistake. He was glad Hermione had not been in the hall at the time and neglected to mention it to her afterwards. He could tell Ron, though; Ron had caused a dinner plate to mutate into a large mushroom and had no idea how it had happened.

    HMMMMM???
    HHHHMMMMMMMM???
    Is that a violation of Gamp’s Law Of Elemental Transfiguration I spy here??? Ron clearly made food when it’s not supposed to be possible!
    Yes yes I know Gamp’s Law didn’t exist until DH but screw you JKR, that’s what happens when you forget to re-read your books, you allow your character to be powerful enough to break a fundamental principle of the universe! 😉
    Canon: Ron breaks the laws of the universe casually without knowing how he does it. Voldy, if I were you, I’d be afraid. Very afraid.
    (and Voldemort was afraid of Ron: why’d you think the Locket singled him out for daily mental torture, eh?)

  • During the battle in the Department of Mysteries, Luna gives us an account of what happened in the “planet room”: four DEs followed Ron, Luna and Ginny and gravity changed; a Death Eater got ahold of Ginny; Luna blasted Pluto at him, breaking Ginny’s ankle in the process; Ron gets cursed by “them”; they get out and return to Harry.
    From Luna’s account, we can deduce that Ron had three Death Eaters to deal with. Three people who can kill you with two words. He got cursed but he’s still alive to tell the tale. That’s a battle I so badly want to see…
  • In Half-Blood Prince, Ginny draws her wand while mocking Ron for his lack of romantic experience. Enraged, Ron whips out his wand too; luckily Harry throws himself between the two siblings before things can get too ugly. However, it’s still noted that “a streak of orange light” shots from Ron’s wand. Ron doesn’t say anything, doesn’t cast any spell. He’s so emotional at the moment that his magic reacts on its own. Also, note that while we’ve seen spells that were yellow, gold, red, green, white, blue or purple (Dolohov’s curse), this is the only orange-coloured spell we see in the series. We’ll never see anything like this again after this.
  • Still in Half-Blood Prince. After his messy break-up with Lavender, Ron doesn’t feel very proud of himself. As he waves his wand around without really thinking about what he’s doing, his magic once again decides to express his emotional state… and makes it snow inside Hogwarts.
    There are two possible explanations for this: either Ron’s magic conjured snow or made it out of the H2O molecules in the air like any physics-respecting magic does; or else Ron just inadvertently broke the wards on the ceiling of Hogwarts to get snow to fall inside the castle.
    Both explanations only highlight just how powerful Ron truly is.
  • In Deathly Hallows, Ron’s quite in shape: not only does he feels the Locket’s pulse better than Harry does (and Harry is supposed to be in-tune with Voldemort’s mind!), he also simply knows that saying Voldie’s name out loud will be bad. He figures out on his own how to use the Deluminator, Disarms Bellatrix Lestrange, Apparates without Splinching himself out of an extremely stressful situation (Malfoy Manor) which is something Hermione is unable to do… and who can forget how his simple cry of “[HARRY] BEAT YOU!” is enough to break Voldemort’s Elder-Wand-powered Silencing Charm? No counter-curse, no waving his wand around, just a pure scream of defiance, love and grief, and Moldy-Voldy’s powers melt like snow in the sun.

A Knight of many talents

  • Ron displays amazing tactical skills in the chess match – I don’t care how much the bashers try to wave it away like it’s no big deal or “just a game”, let’s see you try to win a chess match without losing three particular pieces! YES! Because what these people can’t understand is that this was no normal chess match! Ron was playing McGonagall and she’s apparently a tough opponent, but he had to keep his friends alive as well! He had to watch his king! Ron has the humongous handicap of having four pieces he must keep at all costs – and in the end, sacrifices himself without hesitation when it turns out he can get Harry to checkmate the enemy king.
  • Ron has excellent observation skills. You’ll also notice that, in the series, he often asks the right questions, is capable of quickly assessing a character (like how he picks up on Malfoy being “all talk” in PS) and acts with caution.

    “This isn’t safe – [Mrs Norris] might have gone for Filch, I bet she heard us. Come on.” And Ron pulled Harry out of the room. – pg 211, Philosopher’s Stone

    Ron understands that just because you’re invisible, doesn’t mean you can evade detection…

    “What was he hiding behind his back?” said Hermione thoughtfully. “Do you think it had anything to do with the Stone?”
    “I’m going to see what section he was in,” said Ron, who’d had enough of working. – pg 230, Philosopher’s Stone

    Thanks to Ron’s observation skills, the trio will find out that Hagrid’s more interested in dragon eggs than usual…

    “Right, here’s what we’ve got to do,” he whispered urgently. “One of us has got to keep an eye on Snape – wait outside the staff room and follow him if he leaves it. Hermione, you’d better do that.”
    “Why me?”
    “It’s obvious,” said Ron. “You can pretend to be waiting for Professor Flitwick, you know.” He put on a high voice, “’Oh Professor Flitwick, I’m so worried, I think I got question fourteen b wrong…’”
    “Oh, shut up,” said Hermione, but she agreed to go and watch out for Snape. – pg 269, Philosopher’s Stone

    First instance of Ron’s mimicry, as well as a nifty ready-made excuse for Hermione, all that packed in humour. What more do we need? 😀

    “What’s that at its feet?” Hermione whispered.
    “Looks like a harp,” said Ron. “Snape must have left it there.” – pg 275, Philosopher’s Stone

    O B S E R V A T I O N

    “Yes – of course – but there’s no wood!” Hermione cried, wringing her hands.
    “HAVE YOU GONE MAD?” Ron bellowed. “ARE YOU A WITCH OR NOT?”
    “Oh, right!” said Hermione – pg 275, Philosopher’s Stone

    See that, Steve Kloves? THAT’s how the scene played out.

    “But there are hundreds of [keys]!”
    Ron examined the lock on the door.
    “We’re looking for a big, old-fashioned one – probably silver, like the handle.” – pg 280, Philosopher’s Stone

    SHERLOCK WEASLEY IS ON THE CASE PALS

    For a split second, Uncle Vernon stood framed in the doorway; then he let out a bellow like an angry bull and dived at Harry, grabbing him by the ankle. Ron, Fred and George seized Harry’s arms and pulled as hard as they could.
    […]
    But the Weasleys gave a gigantic tug and Harry’s leg slid out of Uncle Vernon’s grasp – Harry was in the car – he’d slammed the door shut –
    “Put your foot down, Fred!” yelled Ron, and the car shot suddenly towards the moon. – pg 27, Chamber of Secrets

    Ron is very action-oriented and makes up plans quickly – notice that had he kept quiet, Fred might have not had the idea to accelerate as fast as he’d have.

    “Let Hedwig out,” [Harry] told Ron. “She can fly behind us. She hasn’t had a chance to stretch her wings for ages.”
    George handed the hairpin to Ron and, a moment later, Hedwig soared joyfully out the window to glide alongside them like a ghost. – pg 28, Chamber of Secrets

    Ron casually picks the lock like it’s no one’s business, the twins have probably taught him (which makes it a positive interaction between them and Ron, you know, something actual big brothers would do). Why didn’t this talent come back later on?!

    “I’m glad we came to get you, anyway,” said Ron. “I was getting really worried when you didn’t answer any of my letters. I thought it was Errol’s fault at first – ” – pg 30, Chamber of Secrets

    So Ron had thought of alternative reasons for Harry to not answer his letters (he mentions earlier he’s invited Harry twelve times, he’s written at least twelve letters in one month, what a sweetie) and once he got news of Harry being in trouble, he immediately thought of a plan to go rescue his friend with all the resources available to him. STRATEGY, BABY!

    “They’ll be back,” said Ron as they watched the gnomes disappear into the hedge on the other side of the field. “They love it here… Dad’s too soft with them; he thinks they’re funny…” – pg 37, Chamber of Secrets

    Once again, Ron provides a very correct assessment of another character. Sure, he lives with his dad so it’s normal he knows him well; but it’s still showcasing how Ron is able to understand people better than Harry and Hermione do.
    (also Ron we all know you’ve inherited your Dad’s soft personality you little cutie)

    “Finally – [Errol]’s got Hermione’s answer. I wrote to her saying we were going to try and rescue you from the Dursleys.” – pg 45, Chamber of Secrets

    ??! Ron seeking Hermione’s input on his plans? Ron including Hermione even when he probably knows she’ll disapprove of his idea? DON’T TELL ME THEY’RE ONLY FRIENDS BECAUSE OF HARRY BECAUSE YOU’RE WRONG

    “Let’s go together, we’ve only got a minute,” Ron said to Harry (about going through the wall at Platform 9 ¾) – pg 67, Chamber of Secrets

    It’s a small thing, but even in daily situations, Ron thinks about ways to gain time and to reach a goal in the fastest way possible. Strategy takes many different forms, not necessarily big noticeable ones.

    “It’s gone,” said Ron, sounding stunned. “The train’s left. What if Mum and Dad can’t get back through to us? Have you got any Muggle money?” – pg 68, Chamber of Secrets

    Yes, we know how this’ll end, but look at that: Ron is immediately thinking of potential ways to solve their situation. He thinks his parents are stuck on the other side of the barrier; he doesn’t take Hedwig into account (because she doesn’t belong to him, and I don’t see Harry having any bright ideas either); he’s thinking yet again about solving the problem with his own resources.

    “Can you fly it?”
    “No problem,” said Ron, wheeling his trolley around to face the exit. “C’mon, let’s go. If we hurry we’ll be able to follow the Hogwarts Express –”
    […]
    “Check that no one’s watching,” said Ron, starting the ignition with another tap of his wand. – pg 69, Chamber of Secrets

    Once Ron gets his idea, he immediately plans, thinks, checks on their situation, he multitasks and remembers how to get the car in motion. He takes the lead, he’s in charge.

    “Uh oh,” said Ron, jabbing the Invisibility booster. “It’s faulty –“
    Both of them pummelled it. The car vanished. Then it flickered back again.
    “Hold on!” Ron yelled, and he slammed his foot on the accelerator; they shot straight into the low, woolly clouds and everything turned dull and foggy.
    “Now what?’ said Harry, blinking at the solid mass of cloud pressing in on them from all sides.
    “We need to see the train to know what direction to go in,” said Ron.
    […]
    “Due north,” said Ron, checking the compass on the dashboard. “Okay, we’ll just have to check every half hour or so — hold on –”
    […]
    “All we have to worry about now are airplanes,” said Ron.
    They looked at each other and started to laugh; for a long time they couldn’t stop. – pg 71, Chamber of Secrets

    Once more, Ron thinks and plans. Faulty Invisibility booster? No problem, hide in the clouds for cover. No idea of where we’re going? Get down a little and check on the train. And to top it off in true Ron Weasley fashion, he makes a joke and all the tension vanishes.

    Ron put his foot on the accelerator and drove them upward again, but as he did so, the engine began to whine.
    Harry and Ron exchanged nervous glances.
    “It’s probably just tired,” said Ron. “It’s never been this far before…” – pg 71, Chamber of Secrets

    Despite thinking poorly of himself, Ron tends to look on the bright side in many situations. Of course, with Hermione having a very realist approach to life and Harry being more of a pessimist, Ron’s optimism is an unvaluable asset to the Trio.

    “Why couldn’t we get through the barrier?”
    Harry shrugged. “We’ll have to watch our step from now on, though,” he said, taking a grateful swig of pumpkin juice. “Wish we could’ve gone up to the feast…”
    “She didn’t want us showing off,” said Ron sagely. “Doesn’t want people to think it’s clever, arriving by flying car.” – pg 80, Chamber of Secrets

    Ron asks a very important and pertinent question, and gives us an astute observation about McGonagall’s way of thinking. He just gets people.

    Percy was visible over the heads of some excited first years, and he seemed to be trying to get near enough to start telling them off. Harry nudged Ron in the ribs and nodded in Percy’s direction. Ron got the point at once.
    “Got to get upstairs – bit tired,” [Ron] said, and the two of them started pushing their way toward the door on the other side of the room, which led to a spiral staircase and the dormitories. – pg 81

    Harry and Ron are very in-tune with each other and their tendancy to communicate without talking illustrates this very well. Here, Harry thinks of a plan and Ron gets it immediately, and subsequently puts it in action.

    “Why,” demanded Ron, seizing her [Hermione’s] schedule, “have you outlined all Lockhart’s lessons in little hearts?”
    Hermione snatched the schedule back, blushing furiously. – pg 95

    IF IT CONCERNS HERMIONE RON’LL ALWAYS NOTICE

    “Rubbish,” said Hermione. “You’ve read his books – look at all those amazing things he’s done –“
    “He says he’s done,” Ron muttered. – pg 95

    Aaaaand this is the first time someone considers that Lockhart could be an impostor. Hermione is blinded by her crush and her own belief that books are always right (I love this plotline to be honest) while Ron keeps his head on straight.

    Keeping his voice low so as not to wake Neville, Dean, and Seamus, Harry told Ron exactly what he had heard.
    “And Lockhart said he couldn’t hear it?” said Ron. Harry could see him frowning in the moonlight. “D’you think he was lying? But I don’t get it – even someone invisible would’ve had to open the door.” – pg 121

    Once again Ron proves his strategic ability by asking all the right questions and considering the probable alternatives. He is a thinker – just not in the obvious way. The ability to ask the right question is as important as the ability to give the answer.

    “Why would anyone want to celebrate the day they died?” said Ron, who was halfway through his Potions homework and grumpy. “Sounds dead depressing to me…” – pg 130

    He was right, wasn’t he? 😉

    “What’s that thing – hanging underneath?” said Ron, a slight quiver to his voice.
    As they edged nearer, Harry almost slipped – there as a large puddle of water on the floor; Ron and Hermione grabbed him, and they inched toward the message, eyes fixed on a dark shadow beneath it.
    All three of them realized what it was at once, and leapt backward with a splash. Mrs. Norris, the caretaker’s cat, was hanging by her tail from the torch bracket. She was stiff as a board, her eyes wide and staring.
    For a few seconds, they didn’t move. Then Ron said, “Let’s get out of here.”
    […]
    “Trust me,” said Ron. “We don’t want to be found here.”
    But it was too late. – pg 139

    Ron is the first one to notice Mrs Norris and then the first one to decide on the right course of action, immediately understanding what people will think when they find them with the cat’s limp body.

    “Do you think I should have told them about that voice I heard?”
    “No,” said Ron, without hesitation. “Hearing voices no one else can hear isn’t a good sign, even in the wizarding world.” – pg 145

    Harry is hearing voices and it’s not a good sign, Ron’s right. Even so will he ditch Harry? Nope. Best mate material there.

    “— The Chamber Has Been Opened… What’s that supposed to mean?”
    “You know, it rings a sort of bell,” said Ron slowly. “I think someone told me a story about a secret chamber at Hogwarts once ….might’ve been Bill…”
    “What’s on earth’s a Squib?” said Harry.
    To his surprise, Ron stifled a snort. “Well – it’s not funny really – but as it’s Filch,” he said. “A Squib is someone who was born in a wizarding family but hasn’t got any magical powers. Kind of the opposite of Muggle-born wizards, but Squibs are quite unusual. If Filch’s trying to learn magic from a Kwikspell course, I reckon he must be a Squib. It would explain a lot. Like why he hates students so much.” Ron gave a satisfied smile. “He’s bitter.” – pg 145

    Ron has an excellent memory when his big brothers tell him stuff. It maddens me that JKR stopped using this particular detail and instead had Hermione give most of the information in the later books. Also, notice that Ron does have compassion for Squibs (“it’s not funny really”) but seeing as it’s Filch and Filch isn’t very sympathetic…
    And, also, Ron assesses a character thanks to the information he possesses and comes out with a spot-on analysis – unlike Hermione who, when she tries dabbing into psychology, ends up with all the wrong conclusions.


    “Who can it be, though?” [Hermione] said in a quiet voice, as though continuing a conversation they had just been having. “Who’d want to frighten all the Squibs and Muggle-borns out of Hogwarts?”
    “Let’s think,” said Ron in mock puzzlement. “Who do we know who thinks Muggle-borns are scum?”
    He looked at Hermione. Hermione looked back unconvinced.
    “If you’re talking about Malfoy –“
    “Of course I am!” said Ron. “You’ve heard him – ‘ You’ll be next, Mudbloods!’ – Come on, you’ve only got to look at his foul rat face to know it’s him –“
    “Malfoy, the Heir of Slytherin?” said Hermione sceptically.
    […]
    “They could’ve had the key to the Chamber of Secrets for centuries!” said Ron. “Handing it down, father to son…” – pg 158

    Ron has the wrong culprit, but the right idea. After all, the Malfoys were indeed in possession of the key to the Chamber – only the key wasn’t a literal one.

    Snape, too, was looking at Harry in an unexpected way: It was a shrewd and calculating look, and Harry didn’t like it. He was also dimly aware of an ominous muttering all around the walls. Then he felt a tugging on the back of his robes.
    “Come on,” said Ron’s voice in his ear. “Move – come on –“
    Ron steered him out of the hall, Hermione hurrying alongside them.
    […]
    “You’re a Parselmouth. Why didn’t you tell us?”
    “I’m a what?” said Harry.
    “A Parselmouth!” said Ron. “You can talk to snakes!”
    “I know,” said Harry. “I mean, that’s only the 2nd time I’ve ever done it done it.”
    […]
    “So?” said Harry. “I bet loads of people here can do it.”
    “Oh, no they can’t,” said Ron. “It’s not a very common gift. Harry, this is bad.”
    […]
    “It matters,” Hermione said, speaking at last in a hushed voice, “because being able to talk to snakes was what Salazar Slytherine was famous for. That’s why the symbol of Slytherin is a serpent.”
    Harry’s mouth fell open.
    “Exactly,” Ron said. “And now the whole school is going to think you’re his great-great-great-great-grandson or something –” – Pg 196

    NOTICE. Notice how Ron is the first one to recognize how the situation looks and immediately takes charge, escorting Harry out of the hall. He proceeds to teach Harry about his ability (note that Ron refers to Parseltongue as a “gift”, which means he’s not as prejudiced about Slytherins as people believe him to be). Hermione provides the information she’s probably read about in Hogwarts, A History, and Ron warns Harry about people’s reaction.

    When Hermione had bustled off to check on the Polyjuice Potion again, Ron turned to Harry with a doom-laden expression.
    “Have you ever heard of a plan where so many things could go wrong?”

    He’s right you know? The Polyjuice plan has so many holes in it (what if Crabbe and Goyle woke up, what if they can’t find Malfoy, what if they don’t find the password, what if someone sees them changing and that’s just a few on top of my head)… Sadly they don’t have a better idea. That doesn’t mean the strategist in Ron doesn’t recognize how screwed they are. :’D

    All they needed now was a Slytherin that they could follow to the Slytherin common room, but there was nobody around.
    “Any ideas?” muttered Harry.
    “The Slytherins always come up to breakfast from over there,” said Ron, nodding at the entrance to the dungeons. – pg 219

    SHERLOCK RON, THE RETURN

    “Well, it wasn’t a complete waste of time,” Ron panted, closing the bathroom door behind them. “I know we still haven’t found out who’s doing the attacks, but I’m going to write to Dad tomorrow and tell him to check under the Malfoy’s drawing room.”

    Ron your inner Slytherin is showing

    “Well, we won’t find out unless we look at it,” [Harry] said, and ducked around Ron and picked it up off the floor.
    Harry saw at once that it was a diary, and the faded year on the cover told him it was 50 years old. He opened it eagerly. On the first page he could just make out the name “T.M. Riddle” in the smudged ink.
    “Hang on,” said Ron, who had approached cautiously and was looking over Harry’s shoulder. “I know that name… T.M. Riddle got an award for special services to the school 50 years ago.”

    I pointed out earlier Ron’s magical intuition but I repeat; he acts carefully around what might be a cursed object, and he remembers a detail he’s seen just once! Sure he spent a long time looking at it, but trust me when I tell you that there is looking and looking. You can look at something without registering anything about it.

    “He never wrote in it,” said Harry disappointed.
    “I wonder why someone wanted to flush it away?” said Ron curiously.

    THE RIGHT QUESTION AGAIN

    “Could have been anything,” said Ron. “Maybe he got thirty O.W.L.s or saved a teacher from the giant squid. Maybe he murdered Myrtle; that would’ve done everyone a favour…” – pg 232

    Hahahaha, oooh that’s mean but it’s funny all the same, I love dark humour. The best part is that he’s right!

    But Harry had lost his temper. He pulled out his wand and shouted, “Expelliarmus!” and just as Snape had disarmed Lockhart, so Malfoy found the diary shooting out of his hand into the air.
    Ron, grinning broadly, caught it.
    Foreshadowing of what a good Keeper Ron will be!

    “I don’t think Potter liked your valentine much!”
    Ginny covered her face with her hands and ran into class. Snarling, Ron pulled out his wand, too, but Harry pulled him away. Ron didn’t need to spend the whole of Charms belching slugs.

    DON’T TELL ME THAT BOY DOESN’T LOVE HIS LITTLE SISTER WITH HIS WHOLE HEART HE WAS GONNA HEX MALFOY OVER IT

    “We always knew Hagrid had been expelled,” said Harry miserably. “And the attacks must’ve stopped after Hagrid was kicked out. Otherwise Riddle wouldn’t have got his award.”
    Ron tried a different tack.
    “Riddle does sound like Percy – who asked him to squeal on Hagrid, anyway?” – pg 250

    Once again, Ron proves how good he is at understanding people.

    But the only thing that Harry felt he was really good at was Quidditch. In the end, he chose the same subjects as Ron, feeling that if he was lousy at them, at least he would have someone friendly to help him. – pg 252

    Now, I know that there are many imbeciles out there who thought Harry was “dumbing himself down” for Ron’s sake, and that he’d be a prodigy at Arithmancy or Ancient Runes. Well face the cold, hard FACTS just like Hermione would tell you and understand that Harry doesn’t want to choose the same subjects as Hermione because he’s used to her helping, and Hermione’s way of helping is by nagging and babbling endlessly. Ron’s way of helping is much more tolerable, even if he’s not as good academically as Hermione is.

    As he and Neville pulled the blankets back onto his bed, Ron, Dean, and Seamus came in. Dean swore loudly.
    “What happened, Harry?”
    “No idea,” said Harry.
    But Ron was examining Harry’s robes. All the pockets were hanging out.
    “Someone’s been looking for something,” said Ron. “Is there anything missing?”
    Harry started to pick up all his things and throw them into his trunk. It was only as he threw the last of the Lockhart books back into it that he realized what wasn’t there.
    “Riddle’s diary is gone,” he said in an undertone to Ron. – pg 253

    DETECTIVE SHERLOCK WEASLEY, THE RETURN OF THE COMEBACK OF THE SEQUEL

    “But why’s she got to go to the library?” [Harry asked].
    “Because that’s what Hermione does,” said Ron, shrugging. “When in doubt, go to the library.” – pg 255

    Hahahahah he knows her so well aaawww

    “Follow the spiders,” said Ron weakly, wiping his mouth on his sleeve. “I’ll never forgive Hagrid. We’re lucky to be alive.”
    “I bet he thought Aragog wouldn’t hurt friends of his,” said Harry.
    “That’s exactly Hagrid’s problem!” said Ron, thumping the wall of the cabin. “He always thinks monsters aren’t as bad as they’re made out, and look where it’s got him! A cell in Azkaban!” – pg 280

    An excellent summary of Hagrid’s character. Again, Ron proves very astute and insightful when people are concerned.

    “Frankly, I’m astounded Professor McGonagall thinks all these security measures are necessary.”
    “I agree, sir,” said Harry, making Ron drop his books in surprise.
    “Thank you, Harry,” said Lockhart graciously while they waited for a line of Hufflepuffs to pass. “I mean, we teachers have quite enough to be getting on with, without walking students to classes and standing guard all night…”
    “That’s right,” said Ron, catching on. “Why don’t you leave us here, sir, we’ve only got one more corridor to go –” – pg 287

    Excuse me you think Ron is dumb?
    Clearly you haven’t read the books m’good sir, just watch how quickly he understands Harry’s plan and immediately manages to give Lockhart an excuse to leave them alone.

    “But how would the basilisk been getting around the place?” said Ron. “A giant snake… someone would’ve seen…”
    Harry, however, pointed at the word Hermione had scribbled at the foot of the page. “Pipes,” he said. “Pipes… Ron, it’s been using the plumbing. I’ve been hearing that voice inside the walls…”
    Ron suddenly grabbed Harry’s arm. “The entrance to the Chamber of Secrets!” he said hoarsely. “What if it’s in —“
    “—Moaning Myrtle’s bathroom,” said Harry. – pg 292

    Again, asking the right question, and figuring out the location of the Chamber thanks to Hermione’s notes and reasoning. That’s the way I like my Trio!

    “She knew something Harry,” said Ron, speaking for the first time since they had entered the wardrobe in the staff room. “That’s why she was taken. It wasn’t some stupid thing about Percy at all. She’d found out something about the Chamber of Secrets. That must be why she was –“ Ron rubbed his eyes frantically. “I mean, she was a pure-blood. There can’t be any other reason.”
    Harry could see the sun sinking, blood red, below the skyline. This was the worst he had ever felt. If only there was something they could do. Anything.
    “Harry,” said Ron. “D’you think there’s any chance at all she’s not – you know –“
    He didn’t know what to say. He couldn’t see how Ginny could still be alive.
    “D’you know what?” said Ron. “I think we should go and see Lockhart. Tell him what we know. He’s going to try and get into the Chamber. We can tell him where we think it is, and tell him it’s a basilisk in there.”

    MY BABY HE’S ABOUT TO CRY NOOOO D:
    Ron notices that the Heir’s pattern is not followed here, and provides an idea to help. Also, look at Harry’s pessimism. Lucky he didn’t voice that thought aloud – or we might have gotten Ron sobbing his heart out AND THAT’S UNACCEPTABLE

    Harry reached his wand just in time. Lockhart had barely raised his, when Harry bellowed, “Expelliarmus!”
    Lockhart was blasted backward, falling over his trunks; his wand flew high into the air; Ron caught it, and flung it out of the open window. – pg 298

    Don’t worry Oliver, your Keeper position is in good hands!
    Also, who even retrieved Lockhart’s wand? Do you think an Acromantula might have gotten away with it? There’s a fanfic idea! 8D

    “That tap’s never worked,” said Myrtle brightly as he tried to turn it.
    “Harry,” said Ron. “Say something in Parseltongue.”
    “But –“ Harry thought hard.

    RON WEASLEY AND THE POWER OF INSTINCT EVERYONE

    [Lockhart] put his hand on the door knob, but Ron and Harry both pointed their wands at him.
    “You can go first,” Ron snarled.
    White-faced and wandless, Lockhart approached the opening.
    “Boys,” he said, his voice feeble. “Boys, what good will it do?”
    Harry jabbed him in the back with his wand. Lockhart slid his legs into the pipe.
    “I really don’t think –“ he started to say, but Ron gave him a push and slid out of sight. Harry followed quickly. – pg 301

    “THIS. IS. HOGWARTS!” – Ronald Weasley, probably

    “We must be miles under the school,” said Harry, his voice echoing in the black tunnel.
    “Under the lake, probably,” said Ron, squinting around at the dark, slimy walls. – pg 302

    SHERLOCK RON GOIN’ SCUBA-DIVING

    “Wait there,” he called to Ron. “Wait with Lockhart. I’ll go on…. If I’m not back in an hour…”
    There was a very pregnant pause.
    “I’ll try to shift some of this rock,” said Ron, who seemed to be trying to keep his voice steady. “So you can – can get back through. And, Harry -” – pg 304

    Oh god he’s going to burst into tears any second… and despite that he’s still trying to be an optimist.

    “Have you thought of how we’re going to get back up this?” he said to Ron.
    Ron shook his head, but Fawkes the phoenix had swooped past Harry and was now fluttering in front of him, his beady eyes bright in the dark. He was waving his long golden tail feathers. Harry looked uncertainly at him.
    “He looks like he wants you to grab hold…” said Ron, looking perplexed. “But you’re much too heavy for a bird to pull up there –”

    Ron, once more, demonstrates how he understands people – and animals – very well.

  • After learning that Hermione is petrified, Ron is visibly distraught. After a few shenanigans, the only way to discover more about the mystery of the Chamber is to follow the spiders. Traumatized by one of Fred’s meanest pranks at the age of 3, Ron is a lifelong arachnophobic who tenses up in their mere presence. As an arachnophobic myself, trust me: I wouldn’t have followed these spiders for anything in the world.
    Ron, though? Ronald Weasley’s bollocks are harder than adamantium, it’s a fact: he goes into the forest, resigned to meet the horrors that await Harry and he there. After the Ford Anglia rescues them, he is in such an intense panic attack that he gets physically sick.
    And you know the best part? He did all this for Hermione. Looking at her empty seat in the common room is what gave him the determination to face his fear. Can I get an “AAAAAWWWWW”, everybody?!
    (oh boy Ron you’re in deep, deep love and you haven’t even realized it yet my sweet child)
  • Volunteers himself to be Harry’s training dummy in Goblet of Fire, allowing his friend to practice spells on him for the Third Task. I mean, that takes absolute faith in someone.
    Oh, also, Harry thinks Ron is the thing he’ll miss the most, so clearly Harry values Ron; why can’t all these haters do the same?
  • HBP, Ron is the one who gets the idea for Harry to “get lucky” and drink the Felix Felicis to get Slughorn’s memory. Unconventional idea, that proves to be an excellent one!
  • Okay so in DH we get the Room of Requirements burning because of Crabbe’s Fiendfyre. Ron and Harry are both on brooms, Ron having Hermione with him; but Harry returns to save Malfoy and Goyle despite Ron’s shouts that it is too late. So what does Ron do…?
    Instead of saving his hide and his lady love’s as well, he dives right back into the (cursed) fire, grabs Goyle – whom Harry couldn’t reach – and leaves the Room screaming this perfect one-liner: “IF WE DIE FOR THEM, I’LL KILL YOU, HARRY!”
  • “Oh my – !” shrieked Hermione, as she and Ron caught up with Harry and gazed upwards at the giant now trying to seize people through the window above.
    “DON’T!” Ron yelled, grabbing Hermione’s hand as she raised her wand. “Stun him and he’ll crush half the castle – ”

    Hey. Hey.
    Remember that time in DH when Ron pretty much saved Hogwarts, several people and probably a good bunch of house-elves from being crushed to death?
    No? Well now you’ll remember. :>

  • In DH, Harry, Ron and Hermione must kill Nagini and she’s in the Shrieking Shack. Ron immediately says “Right, Harry, I’ll go under the Cloak, you stay here with Hermione, I’ll be back -” HE WAS GOING TO SACRIFICE HIMSELF ALL OVER AGAIN MY BABY

There are countless other little moments I haven’t noted because I don’t have the English text handy – all I’ve got are extracts gathered all over Internet. But you see? This is a list of all the little ways Ron Weasley is a beautiful soul and an amazing friend, and it’s not complete. He’s so vastly underestimated by his own author and held to ridiculous standards by this fandom…

And look at all this. Look at this list. Look at all the ways Ron proves to be thoughtful, kind, sensitive, compassionate, clever, observant, all before the Locket took a hold of his mind. All the ways Ron showed his maturity and his emotions only to get an ugly “Teaspoon” stamp on his forehead because “Hermione is always right, nevermind that she’s crap at feelings”. All the ways he’s misjudged by half a bloody fandom that worships Emma Watson’s dainty feet.

I’ve said it once, I’ll say it again: Hermione Granger is JKR’s self-insert, and it wouldn’t be too bad, but she insists to have her do everything and be the smartest one all the time. When GoF happens, Ron and Harry and half the HP cast get their brain capacity cut by half so Hermione can be the one who has all the answers. It’s completely ridiculous and if I were allowed, I’d rewrite HBP and DH entirely (keeping in the Locket scene because no matter how I dislike JKR, this particular bit of writing was genius) so the Great Hermione Granger makes more mistakes and gets a few reality checks for good measure.

There are times when Ron can act like a jerk. The Yule Ball, that time in HBP where he iced Hermione out without explaining anything to her and took his anger out on others, yes, there are times where he can be mean and insensitive and immature… and Hermione wasn’t immature when she threw a hissy fit over Harry surpassing her at Potions; and Harry wasn’t immature for fancying Cho Chang just for her looks; and Hermione wasn’t immature for becoming a violent, abusive harpy when Ron dared to go out with someone who wasn’t her; and Harry wasn’t immature for being jealous of Ron becoming a prefect; and Hermione wasn’t immature when she quit Divination just because she wasn’t good at it…

Yeah, how dare Ron be immature when his friends are just as immature too? They’re teenagers. If you can excuse Harry and Hermione’s every fault, then you can do the same to him.

Whenever Ron achieves something, whenever he’s given time to shine, he gets “punished” for it. Quidditch? He has to endure an entire year of humiliation – some teenagers have been driven to suicide for less than that – before he’s allowed to triumph and even then JKR makes sure he bumps his head on the door’s lintel to ridicule him. Saving Harry’s life, destroying the Horcrux and having his soul laid bare to be psychologically and emotionally tortured, with his best mate for an audience? People choose to forget that, instead dogpiling on the fact that he left (and according to them, shouldn’t have come back – enjoy your drowned Harry and your frosted Hermione then).

Ron has so many things to him, so many powerful feelings and emotions and possibilities. Hell, the scars he’s given at the Ministry of Magic wouldn’t be out-of-place in some awesome superhero’s backstory. He demonstrates frighteningly powerful magic at times, too. He walks on the perfect line of comedy and tragedy, being this character that brings so much joy and light to what would otherwise be a duo of dull cynists, but can’t see how bright he shines and how much he’s needed, and is downright forced to believe he’s not good enough, never was, never will be… all that, because people don’t ever pay attention to him; all that, because despite his charisma and his wit, people notice famous Harry Potter and “brilliant” Hermione Granger more; all that because he’s cast in all these enormous shadows and his own author decided he’d never have any sunlight.

Ron sacrificed his feelings of self-worth and the very, very little self-esteem he had for Harry and Hermione’s sakes, and this sacrifice isn’t even seen by most readers of the HP series, and it just… breaks my heart.

Sources: The Strategic Mind of Ronald Weasley and its importance to the Trio
Ron and Harry: The GoF Fight, An Analysis
Some posts on Tumblr I’m too lazy to find, sorry

I think I know the comment that sparked this post off. Someone I was arguing with on a Romione thread about that old ‘Ron didn’t deserve Hermione’ argument (what a load of rubbish!) ended up saying that Ron would be ‘less of an insecure, bullying g*t’ after DH. I was more than a little peeved by that remark.